Contour Airlines
#101
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: Boeing 757/767 First Officer
Posts: 38
I was Macon based but I did almost everything that CFM did with the ERJ; EAS, RW charters, Nissan contract, and even government services. Suffice it to say that things have changed drastically sense you left.
#102
So you were a part of the Onejet operation then? That makes sense. I didn't do any of that.
I was Macon based but I did almost everything that CFM did with the ERJ; EAS, RW charters, Nissan contract, and even government services. Suffice it to say that things have changed drastically sense you left.
I was Macon based but I did almost everything that CFM did with the ERJ; EAS, RW charters, Nissan contract, and even government services. Suffice it to say that things have changed drastically sense you left.
Then just flew as Contour out of PHX. First just Page, then they connected with LAS, SBA, OAK, CEC. Long days for sure, but I enjoyed my time there, and company was good to me.
Did things change in a bad way?
#104
#105
New Hire
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 8
ERJ side- working 12-16 days a month
Depends on the base for overnights. Some overnight at out stations. Some come back to base.
50-70 hours flight time each month.
Upgrades are seem subjective. Most come after 1+ years.
Depends on the base for overnights. Some overnight at out stations. Some come back to base.
50-70 hours flight time each month.
Upgrades are seem subjective. Most come after 1+ years.
#106
New Hire
Joined APC: Feb 2021
Posts: 5
#107
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2021
Posts: 19
Lately, I've heard that it can be as much as 20 or more. Aren't they now paying pilots to not call out sick as well? I heard someone mention that but maybe it was just a rumor.
Are they scheduling pilots to fly out of their assigned bases without asking them beforehand? For example: Are they making Nashville based pilots fly the Charlotte/Beckley route without asking them ahead of time? I remember that being a huge point of contention.
On average, across the fleet maybe. What are the Oakland/CEC pilots getting per month?
Yes, I've heard that management allegedly likes to "play favorites", which has caused problems in the past apparently.
On average, across the fleet maybe. What are the Oakland/CEC pilots getting per month?
Yes, I've heard that management allegedly likes to "play favorites", which has caused problems in the past apparently.
#108
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 8
Lately, I've heard that it can be as much as 20 or more. Aren't they now paying pilots to not call out sick as well? I heard someone mention that but maybe it was just a rumor.
That’s only on CA side. Ton of FOs so it’s not a prob for them
Are they scheduling pilots to fly out of their assigned bases without asking them beforehand? For example: Are they making Nashville based pilots fly the Charlotte/Beckley route without asking them ahead of time? I remember that being a huge point of contention.
unfortunately the schedule has been coming out average of 5 days prior to the new month-everybody is ****ed about that- and it has your route assignments for the month. Go where you’re scheduled.
On average, across the fleet maybe. What are the Oakland/CEC pilots getting per month?
Page and OAK are getting the least flight time of the fleet.
Yes, I've heard that management allegedly likes to "play favorites", which has caused problems in the past apparently.
That’s only on CA side. Ton of FOs so it’s not a prob for them
Are they scheduling pilots to fly out of their assigned bases without asking them beforehand? For example: Are they making Nashville based pilots fly the Charlotte/Beckley route without asking them ahead of time? I remember that being a huge point of contention.
unfortunately the schedule has been coming out average of 5 days prior to the new month-everybody is ****ed about that- and it has your route assignments for the month. Go where you’re scheduled.
On average, across the fleet maybe. What are the Oakland/CEC pilots getting per month?
Page and OAK are getting the least flight time of the fleet.
Yes, I've heard that management allegedly likes to "play favorites", which has caused problems in the past apparently.
#109
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 30
With all due respect, Kobayashi, what are you talking about? It's clear you've never worked here. We have always been scheduled for 18 days per month. No more no less. Some of those days can be assigned as reserve, and for most of us that live in basis, 12-16 days of duty and the balance as reserve days is typical. Back in October/November, there were lots of opportunities with incentive pay to pick up additional flying and so yes, some of us did fly 20 days or so, but those opportunities have largely subsided. I haven't seen a single email from scheduling in the past couple of months with any open time opportunities. To be honest, the ERJ ranks have never been better staffed than they are right now, and I've been here several years. We did have a large number of people leave in the fall when hiring at other airlines really ramped up, I think 4 or 5 to ABX alone, but the company committed to rectifying the staffing levels within a few months and they did.
Your example of the Nashville based pilots flying out of Charlotte is a terrible example. Nashville, while a base, has never been an overnight location. Nashville based pilots have always been used around the system and it has never been a point of contention. I think the issue was West Coast based pilots didn't like having to travel to the East Coast to cover flying, which I understand since the East Coast flying is typically more intense. Some of us on the East Coast actually like the West Coast rotations for a pairing of lighter flying. Now, the West Coast flying is largely covered by pilots that live in base or by the home based crewmembers. But there has never been an understanding that we couldn't or wouldn't be used out of base.
Tell me, if you've never worked here, where did you hear that management likes to play "favorites"? I've never felt that way. Some people are ready to upgrade at 1500, some aren't, so upgrades are subjective in that sense. Some people newly typed on the aircraft are ready to upgrade in six months, some not until after a year or longer. It's not a seniority number driven environment, but if you are competent pilot capable of functioning as PIC I am hard pressed to think of anyone that wasn't upgraded at the appropriate time.
Your example of the Nashville based pilots flying out of Charlotte is a terrible example. Nashville, while a base, has never been an overnight location. Nashville based pilots have always been used around the system and it has never been a point of contention. I think the issue was West Coast based pilots didn't like having to travel to the East Coast to cover flying, which I understand since the East Coast flying is typically more intense. Some of us on the East Coast actually like the West Coast rotations for a pairing of lighter flying. Now, the West Coast flying is largely covered by pilots that live in base or by the home based crewmembers. But there has never been an understanding that we couldn't or wouldn't be used out of base.
Tell me, if you've never worked here, where did you hear that management likes to play "favorites"? I've never felt that way. Some people are ready to upgrade at 1500, some aren't, so upgrades are subjective in that sense. Some people newly typed on the aircraft are ready to upgrade in six months, some not until after a year or longer. It's not a seniority number driven environment, but if you are competent pilot capable of functioning as PIC I am hard pressed to think of anyone that wasn't upgraded at the appropriate time.
#110
On Reserve
Joined APC: Feb 2021
Posts: 19
Tell me, if you've never worked here, where did you hear that management likes to play "favorites"? I've never felt that way. Some people are ready to upgrade at 1500, some aren't, so upgrades are subjective in that sense. Some people newly typed on the aircraft are ready to upgrade in six months, some not until after a year or longer. It's not a seniority number driven environment, but if you are competent pilot capable of functioning as PIC I am hard pressed to think of anyone that wasn't upgraded at the appropriate time.
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