Did they cut pay? Benefits? Worse schedule? Or more the treatment of employees?

 

Essentially, yes to all of the above. Fired well-liked management folks. Changed schedule offerings. Came out with a new “enhanced” pay package that changed salary into “soft” money for hitting certain milestones. Folks are leaving in droves. While there has always been folks leaving for greener pastures, now there are folks leaving just to get away from the toxic environment, and hoping there are greener pastures. BIG change from 3 years ago.

 

I’ll echo Peabody. I’ve been able to put up with a lot of the silly and overly complicated workflow changes over the last several months. XO still has, at least for the time being, a good pilot group, great people outside of executive management, and a few other peripheral things that still made it somewhat still worthwhile. This compensation package was advertised as an improvement, however it’s anything but - more days worked per year to include training on days off and no vacation. If you’re sick, from what I understand you have to make up those days. Additional incentives for flying over 600 hours and 700 hours per year, something we have no control over thus essentially incentivizing you to fly fatigued, sick, or broken airplanes (not that I believe the majority would do that).

We were all blindsided by this. I wasn’t looking to leave, but now I am strongly considering my next move. I have friends at JE and I certainly wouldn’t want the same to happen to them, but as much as I hate to say it JE is right where XOJ was 2 years ago.

 

Echo the concerns other have expressed.

My recent exit survey from a company that I was looking forward to staying with for a few more yrs after I retired from SWA. VJ and poor leadership CHOICES as you will read is the cancer that is destroying XO.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IxlBjU7xetR_wPMxdRXIWCyeoPRJUoqQ/edit?usp=drivesdk&ouid=102349764599112687454&rtpof =true&sd=true

 

Can you share the pay change details?

 

It’s too complicated and will take too much time. It sucks, I’ll leave it at that

 

If you come in as an FO on one fleet, how long does it take to upgrade on an different fleet (not typed)?

TC

 

The Jet Edge profile no longer lists 8/6 rotation for any fleet. Maybe an omission…

Careers page states the Challenger is a 15/13 schedule. Oh well, welcome to the Vistajet family.

TC

 

Well said. I witnessed it first hand. Too bad.

 

So 😢 to hear it.. I can’t believe that they already changed the schedule to only 15/13… Hopefully, the negative changes will stop there…. I love those paint jobs..