Blueridger: Were you BIL based?

 

Uhhhhhh......... Are you really at Ameriflight? Good group of pilots here, but I would definitely say few are HAPPY here.

 

Sounds like you're OAK based.

 

One lazy training captain shouldn't speak for a company of professionals.

I have never understood why they do this.

That's unfortunate. But we have to separate ourselves from the needs of Op's and the wishes of mx. If it's broke it's broke. That's professionalism. And sometimes it sucks. But I always remind myself that I'm screwing the next pilot if I don't squawk it.

We're home everyday/night. Pack a lunch, it's healthier.

This makes sense to me. If you choose to move why would AMF pay for relocation.

I agree


'PIC by default' I don't understand

Unfortunately true, but we become safer from others mistakes. Single pilot IFR is not easy.

Touchy subject for me, I flew with and respected T.C. as a competent and safe pilot and a great person. But I've never been pressured to fly. I've known senior and junior pilots who have refused to fly for high wind, low vis., icing, etc. and nothing more is said. Just like with mx, stand your ground.

You're right, WE NEED PILOTS!!

That's pretty insulting.

 

Does anyone know about open positions in MHR?

 

Sorry AMF didn't live up to your SJS expectations- it's the bottom floor of professional aviation, and it's not always pretty, but I take exception to a few things you said.

First, I have never seen MX punt on a real issue- sometimes they can't replicate the sqawk, but I have never, NEVER been pressured to not squawk a problem. Same with Ops/Flight- I know a pilot who decided they couldn't fly a standard ODP out of an uncontrolled airport at night, and the reserve bird flew out to do their run and bring them home.

As for the TC issue, we burn through them the same way GA does- the newest end up teaching until they can do something else. The ones that suck end up going on the line where they do less damage. All my trainees have passed on the first ride, so I don't know what more to say.


As for the sleep issue, it works for some, not for others. The schedule isn't a secret- everyone knows freight dogs work crappy hours. It comes with the job.

"Default PIC" is patently insulting- Why is PIC time more valuable with someone around to read your checklists and tune your radios? I'm sorry if you can't stand to fly on your own but please don't denigrate the men and women who fly by themselves in the ice, dark, and turbulence every day.

And you know what- I think my job IS great. I've worked in offices, in retail, in customs brokerage, at a car dealership, and on a construction crew- none of them came close, even the ones that paid more. I have a lot of freedom that 121 pilots don't, and every week there's something different. Yes, parts of it suck, but I choose to enjoy the upsides, rather than getting bitter about the downsides. You say you were furloughed. Was it better to fly a ****** job like AMF, or try to scrape by selling used cars?

 

Tango Bar-I think you pretty much summed it up here. Wish we had more like you coming through the classes right now.

 

I never sold used cars, so to me, there is no comparison to be made. Besides, the title of this thread is AMF vs. 121, not AMF vs. selling used cars. I did fly for a 121 carrier and I enjoyed freedoms and benefits and wages that make AMF look like a used car dealership. All I can say is that you might want to broaden your horizons if you think AMF is such a great deal, but hey, if you love it, then go ahead and enjoy yourself there.
I was only adding my two cents to the thread, sorry you disagree with my opinions, but that's the whole point of a discussion.

 

Hey, no problem disagreeing- my whole point was that the tone of your writing was a little insulting. Take your pick of standby jobs- selling used cars was the first that came to mind. I worked with a furloughee

I know there's better out there than AMF- I'm aiming for Purple or Brown down the road. But for now, I work for AMF, and it's better than a whole lot of stuff out there. I hear RJ drivers griping about scheduling and not getting paid, just like people here whine. But pay isn't everything; if it was, I'd have stuck with brokerage or construction. I take pride in doing a job that a lot of people in this industry look down on, and doing it well. There's too many lazy and sloppy people who just want to move up and make more money. I'm more interested in learning from the basement up.

I've no real argument with you. I just thought the tone of your post was a bit disdainful. And while 121 carriers may provide more benefits, I don't trust 'em- look at what has happened to United and American employees.

 

Amen brother. The 121 world is a far cry from what it was pre 9/11, it's truly a rotten deal now......... I did not intend any disdain, except some towards AMF, but certainly none towards its pilots.
Good luck to ya.