Rkt241

Except many corporate outfits won't hire 121 for lack of customer service experience and concern you might soon head back where you came from

Rkt241

...and a college degree

ThomasMagnum

Also completely inaccurate

DarkSideMoon

Based on how desperately the 91K/135 operations need pilots I think that's a matter of demonstrating your customer service skills in the interview. Just because you're 121 doesn't mean you live in a bubble where you never provide customer service. Many of the corporate pilots I know have 121 experience.

Rkt241

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/06/29/beginning-pilots-could-swap-classroom-training-flying-under-senate-bill/439156001/

"The Transportation Department regulations finalized in July 2013 made exceptions for military pilots who have flown at least 750 hours, graduates of four-year colleges who have flown at least 1,000 hours and graduates of two-year colleges who have flown 1,250 hours."

Rkt241

You have to get the interview first.

PrettyFlyGuy

I'm assuming he means top tier corporate like the Fortune 500 and other large private companies and not mom and pop operations. They are known to not take guys from 121 for that reason, there is obviously exceptions due to who you know. But places like John Deere, Wal-Mart to some of the big oil companies all have a history of not wanting 121 on a resume. My instructor flies for a billion dollar company with 6 planes and if I go 121 he says he wont be able to get me a job regardless. Its not an insult its just a different world where you have to do everything from top to bottom not just walk to the gate grab the paperwork, say hi to a few passengers and go home.
A bunch of the Wally World Lears were at my home airport last week and was able to chat with them for a bit and they gave the same advice if I want to go corporate don't go to a regional. Pretty sure it was the second thing he said.

DarkSideMoon

That's fair. I just don't see it being wise to avoid an entire segment of the industry for the low chance of flying for a 40 person flight department for a Fortune 500. When I was doing corporate in 2012 (economy wasn't the best but it wasn't as bad as it was), 3/15 of the corporate flight operations at the airport were shuttered in the six months I was there. Many more had already gone under before. Personally I'd rather have the flexibility to go 91K/121/135 and lose the 1% shot at getting into one of these rockstar Fortune 500 operations.

Bodhisattva

TMC hired 4 guys with ~1000-1200hrs. Then they could not fly because they did not have time requirements for insurance or brokers. They fly 200hrs in a year. At least two left, not sure about other two. To have to sit right seat in a small jet and look at 5+ years to upgrade from that point is silly. "Time building" is another term for "we trick another guy into slave labor." Turbine PIC is only sum of time worth building, but you cannot get there from 1000 total time at TMC.

Bodhisattva

Most of the better Fortune 500 companies do require a 4 year degree. They are also good companies that see Part 121 time as a benefit. I find that the corporate jobs that look negatively at 121 time do so because they are a club of good old boys who dislike things like standardization, industry standard pay and benefits, and respect for pilots' decision making skills when a situation is unsafe.