When’s the voting date end and when are y’all expected to know the result?

 

They haven’t started road showing so, I’d imagine one month after the end of the show we will have a vote... October?

 

The vote will be shortly.. people want their 60 cent raise.

 

Road show... cut me a break and let us vote it down already.

Our FO rep is out here selling this thing like he's getting paid to do it. Pretty sure that guy is on the take from management.

 

Pay raise, better interface rules, union involvement in schedule building, an arguably better commuter policy for a one hour increase in extension...

I think this will be closer than you think.

 

Interface language is the almost there same.. they had CI days in Allegheny... its the same thing..

The raise for 75 percent of the current captains on the seniority list is pennies..

One hour of extension is a huge deal here already. Captain's are abused..

The scheduling committee language is useless as the company can refuse and cancel the group at anytime.

Notification of trip changes by email!?!?

250 dollars as a reimbursement for hotels... hahaha.

We shouldn't be giving up one concession.

 

In fairness, the notification of trip changes by email pertains only to displacements, and then the company and union have to agree on this at a later date if they decide to.

The rest is personal preference at this point. I feel like spreading half truths doesn’t benefit the pilot group.

Extensions are in my opinion the only real concession. The interface language is huge, the PCSC language is big especially if you talk to the scheduling committee guys, the pay raise is whatever, and the commuter policy is a trade off. I don’t think $250 is a lot on bad months but on good months it could be an extra hotel or two.

 

ROFLMAO

Thanks for the laugh.

 

The worst part about this company is the atrocious QOL. Why budge an inch on anything that makes it worse?

No confidence in what anyone in the union says except BL. I can read. It ain't good.

If you vote yes, you're on the companies side. You should probably join the union at this rate, I think you'd fit in well.

 

Well, conversely, why vote no if it increases the QOL? The few outspoken people are so outraged they didn’t get Endeavor rates, a trip and duty rig, 15 days off, ETC. Unfortunately you can only bargain for things you have the leverage to get - we have none.

Voting no is just as good as keeping things the same. It doesn’t mean we will get more. In fact, if the economy takes a **** and we’re still the lowest paid guys in the industry due to a no vote we probably will have even less leverage in 2021 which is the next midterm negotiation.

Personally, the 5 hour extension is not a deal breaker. I understand why the company wanted it since we fly longer legs with the jet and personally it doesn’t impact me in the least since I’ve only been extended maybe... 2 times?

Whatever boys, vote how you want. It’s a Yes for me and I don’t really care what APC or Facebook has to say about it. I want schedule transparency and for me the trade off of 5 hour extensions / junior man cap is worth it.