PSA or TSA
03-30-2017 | 06:07 PM
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03-30-2017 | 06:10 PM
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Troll? Not sure why you would think that. Did I offend you with my flow prediction? Ten years ago regionals were furloughing pilots left and right, now they offer flow. I'm not depending on flow because you never know what another 10 years will bring. I'm honestly looking for pros and cons between TSA and PSA. If you have no positive imput than maybe you should go troll other threads.
Yeah the flow at PSA is probably going to be 8 years, but you'll not be flying broken planes around for a company with no long term outlook. Hulas is 68 years old... Read the history of TSA, see what he did with GoJet and you'll understand how the man thinks. If you really want the fastest track to AA you'll go to Piedmont. Right now the average civilian TT at the majors is around 8000 so you may as well pick somewhere you'd be comfortable working until you get there or to a new lower time as the majors hire guys with less hours. Yes there are civilians that get picked up with 2500 TT but the key here is AVERAGE.
If you want QOL while you wait for a call from a legacy you'll go to SkyWest. A regional that has never furloughed a pilot.
Living in base is a huge QOL boost so I guess if you lived in base and flew for Mesa it would be better than commuting to Mesa, but at the end of the day you'd still work for Mesa.
03-30-2017 | 06:33 PM
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I'm in the same boat as you being a DFW guy. I'm leaning toward PSA, and I'm an avid anti-commuter. I used to commute from DFW-IAH a few years ago and I swore that I'd never do it again. Why? The lines I typically had were 4 days on 2 days off which means if I missed a commute on the last day I only have about a day and a half off before my next 4 day adventure. At the time it was all weight restricted 145's and 135's. Screw that. I ended up renting a car half the time
Envoy has similar schedules to Mesa. Low productivity trips, and to me it doesn't matter if I live 5 mins from DFW it still sucks if I only have 12 days off. Gone is Gone.
If you were to commute to DCA you'd have 9 direct flights a day on 5 737 and 4 Airbuses with two jumpseats with AA non rev bennies and jumpseat rules. If you were to go the CLT route you'd have 10 direct flights on almost exclusively A320's.
Combine that with being able to SAP down to 15-18 days off a month makes it a worthwhile bitter pill to swallow if you don't want to go the Envoy route.
Just food for thought.
Envoy has similar schedules to Mesa. Low productivity trips, and to me it doesn't matter if I live 5 mins from DFW it still sucks if I only have 12 days off. Gone is Gone.
If you were to commute to DCA you'd have 9 direct flights a day on 5 737 and 4 Airbuses with two jumpseats with AA non rev bennies and jumpseat rules. If you were to go the CLT route you'd have 10 direct flights on almost exclusively A320's.
Combine that with being able to SAP down to 15-18 days off a month makes it a worthwhile bitter pill to swallow if you don't want to go the Envoy route.
Just food for thought.
03-30-2017 | 06:46 PM
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I work for ENVOY and I just finish training and holding a line with 15 days off in LGA TDY and ALREADY base in DFW. It is not a bad gig if you live in base. All regionals are gong to suck no matter where you go. Better to live in base than commute no matter what reasoning you tell your self.
PS you can get hired outside a flow if you happen to be at a regional with flow. And you're more attractive to the competition UA DL if they are directly affecting AA lift.
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03-30-2017 | 06:52 PM
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Dude you're asking should I go to the pizza joint with three stars (PSA) or the 1.5 star place (TSA) and considering them as equal. So either you need to read more on here- APC forums, or you're trolling.
Yeah the flow at PSA is probably going to be 8 years, but you'll not be flying broken planes around for a company with no long term outlook. Hulas is 68 years old... Read the history of TSA, see what he did with GoJet and you'll understand how the man thinks. If you really want the fastest track to AA you'll go to Piedmont. Right now the average civilian TT at the majors is around 8000 so you may as well pick somewhere you'd be comfortable working until you get there or to a new lower time as the majors hire guys with less hours. Yes there are civilians that get picked up with 2500 TT but the key here is AVERAGE.
If you want QOL while you wait for a call from a legacy you'll go to SkyWest. A regional that has never furloughed a pilot.
Living in base is a huge QOL boost so I guess if you lived in base and flew for Mesa it would be better than commuting to Mesa, but at the end of the day you'd still work for Mesa.
Yeah the flow at PSA is probably going to be 8 years, but you'll not be flying broken planes around for a company with no long term outlook. Hulas is 68 years old... Read the history of TSA, see what he did with GoJet and you'll understand how the man thinks. If you really want the fastest track to AA you'll go to Piedmont. Right now the average civilian TT at the majors is around 8000 so you may as well pick somewhere you'd be comfortable working until you get there or to a new lower time as the majors hire guys with less hours. Yes there are civilians that get picked up with 2500 TT but the key here is AVERAGE.
If you want QOL while you wait for a call from a legacy you'll go to SkyWest. A regional that has never furloughed a pilot.
Living in base is a huge QOL boost so I guess if you lived in base and flew for Mesa it would be better than commuting to Mesa, but at the end of the day you'd still work for Mesa.
03-30-2017 | 07:51 PM
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Wait, so you live in DFW and are considering PSA or TSA, but not envoy? Man, we're really scraping the bottom of the barrel intelligence wise! Please do us all a favor and go to TSA...I'm sure things are fantastic over there!
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