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Old 04-16-2018 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MaCrOs
I am not a part of the committee. It's economics 101 - supply and demand. Until the company sees drop in new pilots (which they currently don't), they simply don't have incentive to offer higher pay.
We already have abundance of pilots. Just ask reserve FOs who aren't flying that much.
And airlines don't think like that - they are very reactive. What they worry is ROI, and if they stockpile pilots who aren't flying it ultimately hurts their short term profit margin which is what they are most worried.
It's not my style to pick a fight here, but such misinformation and willingness to sell out for much less than we are worth significantly hurts our overall collective bargaining position.

People in management are not as reactive and shortsighted as some individuals in our pilot group think...

We have sufficient FOs, not an abundance. The DAY FO grid still went pretty RED last month. But we DO NOT have an abundance of CAs.

PSA has no "short-term profit margin." In fact there is no profit margin at all. We are a cost savings tool for AAL as a line-item expense that is lower than what other (non-wholly owned) carriers would cost.

Regarding pilots sitting around, just think about it... If there is an impending perceived possibility of a shortage, would AAL rather stockpile pilots at the major, or at a wholly-owned regional to flow whenever they choose? What's going to cost them less?

PSA is essential for the AAL feed at CLT, which is a HUGELY profitable hub for AAL. From this position comes great strength if exercised appropriately.

Keep in mind, at PSA (or Envoy or Piedmont) you are not negotiating with just a regional airline...
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Old 04-16-2018 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
In all honesty, if you get close enough to do Short Call from home, Reserve is cake.
That may be the case for somebody who knows what the new reserve rules look like, but for the rest of us, the current reserve system at PSA sucks. I know it's "coming soon" but we've been hearing that for nearly 5 months now.

I wouldn't bet on PSA having a great reserve QOL as a CA until you see the new rules.
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Old 04-16-2018 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotRC7
That may be the case for somebody who knows what the new reserve rules look like, but for the rest of us, the current reserve system at PSA sucks. I know it's "coming soon" but we've been hearing that for nearly 5 months now.

I wouldn't bet on PSA having a great reserve QOL as a CA until you see the new rules.
You really need to define “suck.”
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Old 04-16-2018 | 09:48 PM
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We still haven’t seen language from the flow increase negotiated back in December.
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Old 04-17-2018 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly
It's not my style to pick a fight here, but such misinformation and willingness to sell out for much less than we are worth significantly hurts our overall collective bargaining position.

People in management are not as reactive and shortsighted as some individuals in our pilot group think...

We have sufficient FOs, not an abundance. The DAY FO grid still went pretty RED last month. But we DO NOT have an abundance of CAs.

PSA has no "short-term profit margin." In fact there is no profit margin at all. We are a cost savings tool for AAL as a line-item expense that is lower than what other (non-wholly owned) carriers would cost.

Regarding pilots sitting around, just think about it... If there is an impending perceived possibility of a shortage, would AAL rather stockpile pilots at the major, or at a wholly-owned regional to flow whenever they choose? What's going to cost them less?

PSA is essential for the AAL feed at CLT, which is a HUGELY profitable hub for AAL. From this position comes great strength if exercised appropriately.

Keep in mind, at PSA (or Envoy or Piedmont) you are not negotiating with just a regional airline...

I agree, if we have an "overabundance of FO's then why do I see critical days for them?
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Old 04-17-2018 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by irrelevant
We still haven’t seen language from the flow increase negotiated back in December.
We were just talking about this in the flight deck that perhaps the union has had enough bad publicity from the senior manning LOA that they didn't want to release another LOA that may contain a clause we don't like. E.g. the company being able to suspend or meter the flow for operational necessity.

At this point, people are not buying it anymore that it'll be released after going through ALPA national. If the company is already following the new LOA, we should have access to it also.
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Old 04-17-2018 | 04:08 PM
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You ever feel bad when CS calls to ask if you’ll take a flight less than the 2 hour call out and you say no?
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Old 04-17-2018 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by captande
You ever feel bad when CS calls to ask if you’ll take a flight less than the 2 hour call out and you say no?
If I'm feeling in a good mood I'll tell them I'll try, but in no case do I make any promises of less than report time.
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Old 04-17-2018 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by captande
You ever feel bad when CS calls to ask if you’ll take a flight less than the 2 hour call out and you say no?
Does the company ever feel bad when we ask for a raise and they say no?
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Old 04-19-2018 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Camel Dancer
I agree, if we have an "overabundance of FO's then why do I see critical days for them?
Because of extremely poor crew planning by scheduling.
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