Search
Notices
PSA Airlines Regional Airline

New Reserve Rules

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-16-2018, 11:59 AM
  #21  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 287
Default

Originally Posted by MaCrOs View Post
I am not a part of the committee. It's economics 101 - supply and demand. Until the company sees drop in new pilots (which they currently don't), they simply don't have incentive to offer higher pay.
We already have abundance of pilots. Just ask reserve FOs who aren't flying that much.
And airlines don't think like that - they are very reactive. What they worry is ROI, and if they stockpile pilots who aren't flying it ultimately hurts their short term profit margin which is what they are most worried.
It's not my style to pick a fight here, but such misinformation and willingness to sell out for much less than we are worth significantly hurts our overall collective bargaining position.

People in management are not as reactive and shortsighted as some individuals in our pilot group think...

We have sufficient FOs, not an abundance. The DAY FO grid still went pretty RED last month. But we DO NOT have an abundance of CAs.

PSA has no "short-term profit margin." In fact there is no profit margin at all. We are a cost savings tool for AAL as a line-item expense that is lower than what other (non-wholly owned) carriers would cost.

Regarding pilots sitting around, just think about it... If there is an impending perceived possibility of a shortage, would AAL rather stockpile pilots at the major, or at a wholly-owned regional to flow whenever they choose? What's going to cost them less?

PSA is essential for the AAL feed at CLT, which is a HUGELY profitable hub for AAL. From this position comes great strength if exercised appropriately.

Keep in mind, at PSA (or Envoy or Piedmont) you are not negotiating with just a regional airline...
FlyingSlowly is offline  
Old 04-16-2018, 03:07 PM
  #22  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 62
Default

Originally Posted by TallFlyer View Post
In all honesty, if you get close enough to do Short Call from home, Reserve is cake.
That may be the case for somebody who knows what the new reserve rules look like, but for the rest of us, the current reserve system at PSA sucks. I know it's "coming soon" but we've been hearing that for nearly 5 months now.

I wouldn't bet on PSA having a great reserve QOL as a CA until you see the new rules.
pilotRC7 is offline  
Old 04-16-2018, 04:51 PM
  #23  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,483
Default

Originally Posted by pilotRC7 View Post
That may be the case for somebody who knows what the new reserve rules look like, but for the rest of us, the current reserve system at PSA sucks. I know it's "coming soon" but we've been hearing that for nearly 5 months now.

I wouldn't bet on PSA having a great reserve QOL as a CA until you see the new rules.
You really need to define “suck.”
TallFlyer is offline  
Old 04-16-2018, 09:48 PM
  #24  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 425
Default

We still haven’t seen language from the flow increase negotiated back in December.
irrelevant is offline  
Old 04-17-2018, 03:25 AM
  #25  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: Phenom Left Seat
Posts: 73
Default

Originally Posted by FlyingSlowly View Post
It's not my style to pick a fight here, but such misinformation and willingness to sell out for much less than we are worth significantly hurts our overall collective bargaining position.

People in management are not as reactive and shortsighted as some individuals in our pilot group think...

We have sufficient FOs, not an abundance. The DAY FO grid still went pretty RED last month. But we DO NOT have an abundance of CAs.

PSA has no "short-term profit margin." In fact there is no profit margin at all. We are a cost savings tool for AAL as a line-item expense that is lower than what other (non-wholly owned) carriers would cost.

Regarding pilots sitting around, just think about it... If there is an impending perceived possibility of a shortage, would AAL rather stockpile pilots at the major, or at a wholly-owned regional to flow whenever they choose? What's going to cost them less?

PSA is essential for the AAL feed at CLT, which is a HUGELY profitable hub for AAL. From this position comes great strength if exercised appropriately.

Keep in mind, at PSA (or Envoy or Piedmont) you are not negotiating with just a regional airline...

I agree, if we have an "overabundance of FO's then why do I see critical days for them?
Camel Dancer is offline  
Old 04-17-2018, 03:28 AM
  #26  
Gets Weekends Off
 
blackhawk88's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 167
Default

Originally Posted by irrelevant View Post
We still haven’t seen language from the flow increase negotiated back in December.
We were just talking about this in the flight deck that perhaps the union has had enough bad publicity from the senior manning LOA that they didn't want to release another LOA that may contain a clause we don't like. E.g. the company being able to suspend or meter the flow for operational necessity.

At this point, people are not buying it anymore that it'll be released after going through ALPA national. If the company is already following the new LOA, we should have access to it also.
blackhawk88 is offline  
Old 04-17-2018, 04:08 PM
  #27  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Posts: 658
Default

You ever feel bad when CS calls to ask if you’ll take a flight less than the 2 hour call out and you say no?
captande is offline  
Old 04-17-2018, 04:54 PM
  #28  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,483
Default

Originally Posted by captande View Post
You ever feel bad when CS calls to ask if you’ll take a flight less than the 2 hour call out and you say no?
If I'm feeling in a good mood I'll tell them I'll try, but in no case do I make any promises of less than report time.
TallFlyer is offline  
Old 04-17-2018, 05:53 PM
  #29  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: Phenom Left Seat
Posts: 73
Default

Originally Posted by captande View Post
You ever feel bad when CS calls to ask if you’ll take a flight less than the 2 hour call out and you say no?
Does the company ever feel bad when we ask for a raise and they say no?
Camel Dancer is offline  
Old 04-19-2018, 03:44 AM
  #30  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 348
Default

Originally Posted by Camel Dancer View Post
I agree, if we have an "overabundance of FO's then why do I see critical days for them?
Because of extremely poor crew planning by scheduling.
MaCrOs is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Colonel S
United
25
05-04-2022 03:46 AM
SilverandSore
American
339
01-19-2017 04:42 PM
Kilroy
ExpressJet
10671
01-11-2016 06:49 AM
glyde
Major
120
11-11-2011 02:31 PM
757Driver
Major
26
08-09-2011 05:50 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices