PSA or Commutair?
07-17-2018 | 11:42 AM
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PSA or Commutair?
Long time lurker, trying to decide between CommutAir and PSA. Will likely also post this on the C5 site.
As I see it:
Pros for PSA:
Flow, albeit 7 years+
More convenient domiciles (for me in the Midwest)
Better stability as a WO
Relatively quick upgrade, understand at 1000 hrs
Pros for C5:
Better initial bonus structure
CPP, understand not a flow
Smaller company, possibly more flexibility
One plane platform (E145) vs 200/700/900
I appreciate any insight, corrections or additional information.
As I see it:
Pros for PSA:
Flow, albeit 7 years+
More convenient domiciles (for me in the Midwest)
Better stability as a WO
Relatively quick upgrade, understand at 1000 hrs
Pros for C5:
Better initial bonus structure
CPP, understand not a flow
Smaller company, possibly more flexibility
One plane platform (E145) vs 200/700/900
I appreciate any insight, corrections or additional information.
07-17-2018 | 03:05 PM
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Long time lurker, trying to decide between CommutAir and PSA. Will likely also post this on the C5 site.
As I see it:
Pros for PSA:
Flow, albeit 7 years+
More convenient domiciles (for me in the Midwest)
Better stability as a WO
Relatively quick upgrade, understand at 1000 hrs
Pros for C5:
Better initial bonus structure
CPP, understand not a flow
Smaller company, possibly more flexibility
One plane platform (E145) vs 200/700/900
I appreciate any insight, corrections or additional information.
As I see it:
Pros for PSA:
Flow, albeit 7 years+
More convenient domiciles (for me in the Midwest)
Better stability as a WO
Relatively quick upgrade, understand at 1000 hrs
Pros for C5:
Better initial bonus structure
CPP, understand not a flow
Smaller company, possibly more flexibility
One plane platform (E145) vs 200/700/900
I appreciate any insight, corrections or additional information.
Where do you live or want to live and where do you want to be based?
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07-17-2018 | 03:31 PM
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Long time lurker, trying to decide between CommutAir and PSA. Will likely also post this on the C5 site.
As I see it:
Pros for PSA:
Flow, albeit 7 years+
More convenient domiciles (for me in the Midwest)
Better stability as a WO
Relatively quick upgrade, understand at 1000 hrs
Pros for C5:
Better initial bonus structure
CPP, understand not a flow
Smaller company, possibly more flexibility
One plane platform (E145) vs 200/700/900
I appreciate any insight, corrections or additional information.
As I see it:
Pros for PSA:
Flow, albeit 7 years+
More convenient domiciles (for me in the Midwest)
Better stability as a WO
Relatively quick upgrade, understand at 1000 hrs
Pros for C5:
Better initial bonus structure
CPP, understand not a flow
Smaller company, possibly more flexibility
One plane platform (E145) vs 200/700/900
I appreciate any insight, corrections or additional information.
07-17-2018 | 05:48 PM
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Where in the Midwest. Ohio then PSA hands down. But if you live near ORD have you looked at Envoy, Skywest, or republic? MSP maybe Skywest or Endevor. There’s just something about getting back from a trip and having your commute home waiting for you in the employee lot.
Just looking for additional insight, considerations (both pros and cons), etc.
07-17-2018 | 06:18 PM
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Ding Ding Ding there is your answer. DAY is super junior and a GREAT base if you live close. As regional bases go, it seems safe given the airline is HQ'd there.
Not commuting by air will add immeasurably to your QOL
Not commuting by air will add immeasurably to your QOL
07-17-2018 | 06:21 PM
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Halfway between ORD and either DAY or CVG. Envoy wants prior 121 time and I'm not particularly enamored with either SKW or RAH. C5 has some good things going despite the commute to EWR but it's also hard to argue against the relatively easier commute to DAY/CVG. The flow, albeit 7+ yrs out (if real) seems like a great thing to have as a backup, plus being able to hold a line quickly out of IOE in DAY/CVG.
Just looking for additional insight, considerations (both pros and cons), etc.
Just looking for additional insight, considerations (both pros and cons), etc.
Worst reserve rules in the regional industry.
Worst work and QOL rules in the regional industry.
Non-voluntary double leg commuting to the outstations with forced upgrades.
Awful relationship between the line pilots and management.
Pathetic relationship between line pilots and the union.
What about endeavor? I know they are hiring again. You can get paid $20 bucks more an hour across the board. We used to have a schedule adjustment period (SAP) but thats on its way out the door.
I honestly don't know why anyone shows up to indoc here at psa.
07-17-2018 | 07:38 PM
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Low Pay, especially captain pay.
Worst reserve rules in the regional industry.
Worst work and QOL rules in the regional industry.
Non-voluntary double leg commuting to the outstations with forced upgrades.
Awful relationship between the line pilots and management.
Pathetic relationship between line pilots and the union.
What about endeavor? I know they are hiring again. You can get paid $20 bucks more an hour across the board. We used to have a schedule adjustment period (SAP) but thats on its way out the door.
I honestly don't know why anyone shows up to indoc here at psa.
Worst reserve rules in the regional industry.
Worst work and QOL rules in the regional industry.
Non-voluntary double leg commuting to the outstations with forced upgrades.
Awful relationship between the line pilots and management.
Pathetic relationship between line pilots and the union.
What about endeavor? I know they are hiring again. You can get paid $20 bucks more an hour across the board. We used to have a schedule adjustment period (SAP) but thats on its way out the door.
I honestly don't know why anyone shows up to indoc here at psa.
Are you kidding me?
Leave already man. You’re the poison here nobody wants to be around.
How long have you been here?
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07-18-2018 | 05:23 AM
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Low Pay, especially captain pay.
Worst reserve rules in the regional industry.
Worst work and QOL rules in the regional industry.
Non-voluntary double leg commuting to the outstations with forced upgrades.
Awful relationship between the line pilots and management.
Pathetic relationship between line pilots and the union.
What about endeavor? I know they are hiring again. You can get paid $20 bucks more an hour across the board. We used to have a schedule adjustment period (SAP) but thats on its way out the door.
I honestly don't know why anyone shows up to indoc here at psa.
Worst reserve rules in the regional industry.
Worst work and QOL rules in the regional industry.
Non-voluntary double leg commuting to the outstations with forced upgrades.
Awful relationship between the line pilots and management.
Pathetic relationship between line pilots and the union.
What about endeavor? I know they are hiring again. You can get paid $20 bucks more an hour across the board. We used to have a schedule adjustment period (SAP) but thats on its way out the door.
I honestly don't know why anyone shows up to indoc here at psa.
But if it was up to me, I am taking PSA over C5 based on what you are looking for.
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