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Old 04-04-2021, 05:17 PM
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The question to “more airplanes” is from where
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Old 04-04-2021, 06:32 PM
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But didn't you say a few months ago that you see us growing and getting more airplanes?

It doesn't make any sense as to why we're pushing through 2 classes a month of 30 each if we're not growing. I get it that some of the hiring is due to attrition, but we didn't lose 600 pilots.
Chris has never eluded to PSA getting more planes. He has always stuck to his point. The other question you have to ask is where will PSA get planes from to grow? CRJ production has ended, there are many used 700/900s floating around. The possibility was there for growth until CRJ production ended and MESA contract was renewed...
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Chris has never eluded to PSA getting more planes. He has always stuck to his point. The other question you have to ask is where will PSA get planes from to grow? CRJ production has ended, there are many used 700/900s floating around. The possibility was there for growth until CRJ production ended and MESA contract was renewed...
Look at that contract a little harder. I’ve never seen more back doors and strings in any labor contract like this.
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Originally Posted by Baldheadedman66 View Post
But didn't you say a few months ago that you see us growing and getting more airplanes?

It doesn't make any sense as to why we're pushing through 2 classes a month of 30 each if we're not growing. I get it that some of the hiring is due to attrition, but we didn't lose 600 pilots.
I may have? I don’t remember. There were rumors for a while but nothing came of any of it and the situation has been dynamic industry-wide. There are no airplanes coming from Europe. There are none coming out of the desert. So that leaves Mesa. And it costs money to move airplanes around with the savings by doing so being realized over time. Mesa is much more cost-effective than PSA. I don’t think we’re going to see any of those airplanes.

Maybe we would have gained some aircraft if we were able to gain additional block hours. That hasn’t happened yet. Maybe they figure it out in the future, maybe they don’t. But for now I don’t see much changing. I see AA restructuring some as they begin their recovery. What that looks like I have no idea. But they will place flying/airplanes at the carriers who are able to be flexible and respond quickly/efficiently to AA’s changing needs in a rapidly changing market. Not so sure PSA is able to be that airline for AA for a number of reasons that are far outside our control. So no sense worrying about any of it.
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The question to “more airplanes” is from where
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Look at that contract a little harder. I’ve never seen more back doors and strings in any labor contract like this.
I am very aware of it.
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I am very aware of it.
Then you’d know “renewed” is a pretty loose term here. The next 3 months are going to be interesting, then see what July brings.
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Then you’d know “renewed” is a pretty loose term here. The next 3 months are going to be interesting, then see what July brings.
I was speaking in terms of MESA CPA contract being renewed. PSA labor contract has no bearing on that fact.

The opportunity for growth for PSA was there until CRJ production ended and MESA CPA contract with AA was renewed. Where will CRJs come from for PSA. How will PSA see fleet growth with new additional CRJs added to the fleet unless a new type is added.

CPA contracts aren’t written like a poorly negotiated contract by a union....
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Has anyone who did the HR interview the 24th of last month heard anything about a technical? I was talking to a buddy of mine and he says it sounds like they’re on hold interviewing people in the pipeline for classes after May. Which from the looks of things are the guys who Did the HR interview March 24th forward.
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Has anyone who did the HR interview the 24th of last month heard anything about a technical? I was talking to a buddy of mine and he says it sounds like they’re on hold interviewing people in the pipeline for classes after May. Which from the looks of things are the guys who Did the HR interview March 24th forward.
I haven’t heard anything either. Going on vacation on a few days so I was hoping to get everything done before hand.
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