Are you still getting Envoy transfers? I honestly don't know how many we lost at once- they were in the process of being phased out so I don't know how many we officially had on property.

With the 145 bases for envoy closing in NYC and MIA it wouldn’t surprise me if they gave us more envoy E145s as Thats what the plan was from the beginning: envoy to fly the 175, PDT gets the 145, PSA gets the CRJ series.

I hope this is the beginning for more flying for the WO carriers.

I had a class date last August. I haven’t received an email yet.


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I am sure a lot of the recall guys have taken the recall with plans to resign prior to their training date of LOAs aren’t offered. I know quite who are in that boat. I know know quite a few guys who have called it quits as well (they already have another source of income). Then you have attrition from folks who have moved on to ACMI or other Gigs as well.

If people leave like I have heard and we actually get more flying and more airplanes (who really knows), this may put us in a bad position when it comes time to fly what supposedly American wants us to do. If this is what will really happen, I hope PSA announces something quick or we will see those pilots leave.

Everyone worried about recalls and here I am curious to know what AA’s cash burn is down to... We’ll know on the 28th. Last I heard it was still close to $30M /day. If true they’ll have until sometime later this year before their creditors push them to Chapter 11.

I am no longer worried about about recalls, I’ve managed to find some greener pastures and I am trying to help a few of my fellow PSAers do the same. I do hope things change rapidly though.

lmao ya its in the creditors best interest to have AAG declare bankruptcy. What creditors? Airbus and Boring? What are they gonna do with 800 planes. Idk if you’ve looked around but planes aren’t going for much these days. The creditors want AAG to survive so that they have guaranteed income. If AAG goes bankrupt do you think they’ll be dancing and cheering at losing out on money?

What are you even babbling on about? Chapter 11 doesn’t mean they sell off airplanes and assets. You’re thinking of Chapter 7. And yes, IF it is in the best interest of the creditors and bond holders for AA to go into bankruptcy then that’s what they’ll do. There are benefits to bankruptcy for AA too. Namely the ability to reduce cash burn.

Bankruptcy is likely sooner or later anyway. They’ll have well over $40B in debt coming out of this. Their most profitable year they earned a little over $2B. We won’t see profitability like that for several years and in the meantime they have a lot of expensive debt to service. We’re still in the beginning of this whole event from a historical industry perspective. This is the 4th inning and there are 5 more to go.

Most creditors no matter their priority position do not want any kind of bankruptcy. Bankruptcy for creditors is uncertainty.