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Old 11-13-2011 | 06:33 AM
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PSA has been funny about staffing in the past. Quite a while ago when I was in training there was a trend of sending a few home after indoc to come back in a couple weeks. After home for a bit they receive a call that they will no longer be employed. Then you have that whole fiasco where an entire class was fired for cheating on a test or whatever.. but NO.. it had nothing to do with the fact they were about to downgrade a bunch of CAs and begin a furlough for FOs.

Training mgmt back then was unconventional and a guy who used to be a police officer was in charge. His thing was to spy, interrogate, and always talk about how the "walls have eyes." That guy has since climbed into a more cushy corp job across the parking lot and more reasonable folks seem to have taken over in training. So I don't think the shady "we're just going to send you home for a couple weeks" only to become fired type of thing goes on anymore.

But my point is PSA has a history of doing what it takes and will get creative to fulfill the exact staffing model it needs for that week, month, etc. And that staffing model is to run as lean as physically possible. JB saying possibly no class until Feb may have some merit. But imagine she heard details about that over lunch. She would probably hear something completely different at the company dinner party that night.

Also, I'm under the impression that Airways mainline who owns us pretty much calls the shots on staffing and projected hiring for 2012. PSA has run into problems in the past when PSA pilots were hired at Airways mainline but mainline mgmt gave our president permission to hold not only the new hires that had recently interviewed but also hold some Jets for Jobs furloughees that were being recalled to mainline.

I'm under the impression that mainline mgmt does not want to see that history repeat itself so they gave PSA a go ahead on a projected hiring amount for 2012. Who knows though. Take it all w a grain of salt. From what I've gathered over the years, mainline confuses psa, psa corp from across the parking lot confuses psa training visa/versa, and the only info we pilots get comes from training dept folk who will tell you to take it with a grain of salt.

Also, we're seeing a temporary loss of 700 flying as they go off to get first class sections installed and some suspect this may be the reason we're suddenly seeing 19 day off a month lines. And Jan, Feb, etc. has historically shown a significant drop in flying. Just my guess, which isn't worth much, is that PSA mgmt may have not taken all that into account when they began spreading the news of 8 new hires a month beginning in 2012 if indeed that doesn't happen.
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Old 11-13-2011 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
JB doesn't know it all. Bad source to keep bugging her. There's indeed a December class. And probably more early next year.... Why are you talking to hr anyways? Seems kind of odd for a random line pilot to do that then post it on here????
Lol why are you being defensive or offended in any way that I'm actually friends with someone from hr?? I don't "bug" her; we talk from time to time. Geez. I post here to give some insights to guys that are curious and potentially want to come here. I don't see them complaining.
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Old 11-13-2011 | 09:57 AM
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Btw 19 days off is awesome! They need more of those lines even during summer flying!
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Old 11-13-2011 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by skyxbomb
Btw 19 days off is awesome! They need more of those lines even during summer flying!
Man I want one! 19 off would be like heaven! My jaw dropped when I saw those.
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Old 11-13-2011 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by skyxbomb
Lol why are you being defensive or offended in any way that I'm actually friends with someone from hr?? I don't "bug" her; we talk from time to time. Geez. I post here to give some insights to guys that are curious and potentially want to come here. I don't see them complaining.
I am not.... I am just saying you are a pilot? You calling HR and trying to get close is something different.... Say the wrong thing and you never know what can happen to you..... Its hard to defend that at times. You just need to be very careful if you are the one trying to gain information and what you say to certain people. It, even when appearing to be harmless, only takes something small for it to turn into a bigger issue......

Easier way to find out would be calling your ALPA Reps that are in contact with the same people and others that actually know more...... Some actually post on here and know as well.....
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Old 11-14-2011 | 07:33 AM
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Appreciate it. Not sure what you're insinuating but I'll take your advice with good intentions and assure you there are no foul plays here lol I've already got two people on with us recently and they can attest to the fact that I do what I can to help good people get hired, here or even elsewhere. It is about who you know, even at the regional levels. A handful of my old students are trying to get out of instructing and I'm putting their resumes in. JB does interviews so she seems like the right person to talk to whether we will be hiring for the remainder of the year. Plus it doesn't hurt for her to hear the names of the applicants before the actual interview. Go back a few pages and I did mention you're usually on top of the new hire infos.

Anyways... Back to 19 days off lines!! Hope the senior guys and gals choose higher credit lines with 12 days off! LINEBLOCKING SUCKS!
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Old 11-14-2011 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by skyxbomb
Anyways... Back to 19 days off lines!! Hope the senior guys and gals choose higher credit lines with 12 days off! LINEBLOCKING SUCKS!
I saw that. I just dont want others to call and think calling HR to see what is happening is the normal. Now recommending people is something different. I have no issue with helping a fellow pilot out. I am just saying JB's office is downstairs in corporate and next to all those lovely management types...... Also Shaun is more of a factor in who actually gets hired.... But you are obviously correct as well JB does the interview along with Shaun and others...... Just make sure anytime you are on the phone with JB you keep it professional and CYA at all times. Its all I am really trying to say..... Recommend more! We need good quality pilots..... So if your friends are that keep them coming! I mean no ill will bud!
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Old 11-18-2011 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Monte
Does anyone know when the next new hire class starts?
12/12/11 as of yesterday but as always things can change.
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Old 11-18-2011 | 09:43 PM
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Are they interviewing for a January class?
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Old 11-19-2011 | 04:03 AM
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Anyone in the 12/12 class??
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