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09-13-2013 | 02:17 PM
#2581
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How about you offer a logical response for concessions?
Plenty have laid out reasons why PSA is getting an awful deal, what is your rebuttal?
How is it your responsibility as a pilot to help the company buy equipment that'll improve their bottom line? Why are you offering to do the job for less when you are about to become a very valuable commodity?
What would it take for you to vote no? How much worse does the offer have to be?
09-13-2013 | 02:31 PM
#2582
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Yeah he is. He cares about his family. He cares about his company and co workers future. He cares about the flight attendants, Mechanics, dispatchers, schedulers, etc having jobs and checks. If that's selfish sign me up as well..... Until then go pound sand and cast stones at someone you actually know.
All you are offering is sarcastic remarks. Its the sign of your weak and irrelevant arguments.
How about you offer a logical response for concessions?
Plenty have laid out reasons why PSA is getting an awful deal, what is your rebuttal?
How is it your responsibility as a pilot to help the company buy equipment that'll improve their bottom line? Why are you offering to do the job for less when you are about to become a very valuable commodity?
What would it take for you to vote no? How much worse does the offer have to be?
How about you offer a logical response for concessions?
Plenty have laid out reasons why PSA is getting an awful deal, what is your rebuttal?
How is it your responsibility as a pilot to help the company buy equipment that'll improve their bottom line? Why are you offering to do the job for less when you are about to become a very valuable commodity?
What would it take for you to vote no? How much worse does the offer have to be?
It's up to the pilots because we get to vote. It's that simple.
09-13-2013 | 04:07 PM
#2583
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From: Broke
I can't believe I'm reading this. That offer was crap and a joke to any professional pilot. If you are all such family men would you take this crap contract if you had a son or daughter leaving high school wanting to start a pilot career? Pilots have destroyed the regional industry with fear of losing a job. This is the only industry I have worked in where this flies at all. Go ask a construction worker to take a 10% pay cut so they can secure more contracts. Everyone on the job site would walk off. How is it that mechanics and auto workers can stand up for themselves? Is that out of the question for pilots!
09-13-2013 | 04:15 PM
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The seniority system and the RLA among other things make this an apples and oranges argument.
09-13-2013 | 04:37 PM
#2585
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From: Broke
Concessions are concessions does not matter but if you want to look at it that way the next time your in a crew hotel with railroad workers ask them if they would take pay cuts. Conductor starts at $85,000 a year and they seem to be doing fine regulated by the railway act.
09-13-2013 | 04:49 PM
#2587
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09-13-2013 | 04:51 PM
#2588
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From: CRJ FO
I can't believe I'm reading this. That offer was crap and a joke to any professional pilot. If you are all such family men would you take this crap contract if you had a son or daughter leaving high school wanting to start a pilot career? Pilots have destroyed the regional industry with fear of losing a job. This is the only industry I have worked in where this flies at all. Go ask a construction worker to take a 10% pay cut so they can secure more contracts. Everyone on the job site would walk off. How is it that mechanics and auto workers can stand up for themselves? Is that out of the question for pilots!
09-13-2013 | 04:59 PM
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I was just pointing out that his argument is unrealistic....A construction worker, mechanic, whatever else you want to name vs an airline pilot is not a valid argument as an airline pilot's experience(for pay and QoL) does not transfer over to his next airline job.
09-13-2013 | 04:59 PM
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Let me get this straight - your argument is this:
1) We finally got a respectable contract, but because its "so rich," we could afford to give up even more.
2) This is acceptable because we would edge out a lesser compensated competitor by a thin margin.
3) Said competitor is in contract negotiations, with a contract that expired 3.5 years ago.
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4) Said competitor is growing, and will likely make gains in the very near future.
5) PSA taking concessions for 30 airplanes and interviews at Airways is STILL acceptable.
You're questioning MY logic? Enjoy your weekend.
1) We finally got a respectable contract, but because its "so rich," we could afford to give up even more.
2) This is acceptable because we would edge out a lesser compensated competitor by a thin margin.
3) Said competitor is in contract negotiations, with a contract that expired 3.5 years ago.
E
4) Said competitor is growing, and will likely make gains in the very near future.
5) PSA taking concessions for 30 airplanes and interviews at Airways is STILL acceptable.
You're questioning MY logic? Enjoy your weekend.
Are you really this gullible?
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