So you DO care what metal you fly? Or did you actually mean that you COULDN'T care less?

 

touché sir! I push buttons...doesn't matter what type to me. it amazes me how up in arms the local APC big metal police get

 

All indications are that these aircraft are additional to the 200's. We have a new hire class of 9 finishing up the Monday and Tuesday after Thanksgiving, 7 more just finished Indoc, 16 start on December 6th, and the first class of next year could possibly have 30. Yes the 200's will go back at some point in time, probably to be replaced by more airframes.

 

You left out the fact that your medical insurance section was gutted, premium sharing is through the roof (8% increase in the next 3 years). Also, the fact that your rates are locked in for 10 years isn't a good thing - while the industry negotiates gains over the next 10 years, your group will remain stationary with no hope of improvements.

As it is right now, a year 4 (where the cap begins) PSA F/O is only making more than GoJet (currently in negotiations), Mesa (currently in negotiations), Republic (currently in negotiations) , and Pinnacle (bankruptcy contract). In 2023, your highest paid F/O will be making $42.34 per hour and $1.75 an hour in per diem. Imagine how far that $1.75 will go in 2023 dollars.

That's pitiful, and if you aren't willing to admit it, you are a fool.

Growth isn't everything, and you guys are about to find that out the hard way. Good luck, you'll need it.

 

They may want 30 a class but good luck finding them. Eagle wanted 600 and found 150 or so. Still wouldn't shock me to see piedmont merged into PSA and park the dash 8's. There's your pilots for the supposedly additional aircraft.

 

I would be less surprised if they kept downsizing as they are now. I hear they are trying to hire a ton but cant.

 

This will be exactly what happens if we cant staff.

 

Anyone know if PSA will interview below ATP mins?

 

No way this happens....

Maybe Pref interview or a guaranteed job at year 1 pay like every other new hire, but they aren't going to pay all those senior guys topped out pay. It defeats the purpose of everything they just won in these negotiations.

From reading stuff that is in this new XJT TA I really don't think our contract(other than the 12 yr cap, which is in line with major scales) is bad at all. The movable days off thing is unbelievable to me. To be honest that one single item would be enough for me to vote no and I'd rather have the 12yr cap than the movable days off. How about how you have to be available for contact with scheduling while on rest? Nothing like that here. Your 401k matching is less than ours. Our critical pay language is amazing. So amazing in fact that the company isn't even honouring it right now because "Sabre screwed up."

O, and my insurance went down for 2014.

So, where exactly is every other contract head and shoulders above our "industry killer" contract?

Edit: I forgot about the MMG thing....Again, nothing like that here.

 

If you are within 6 months of achieving the time then yes.