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02-28-2015 | 09:52 AM
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02-28-2015 | 10:07 AM
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There are many FOs that have their 1000 hrs required for upgrade but for whatever reason are choosing to bypass, not everyone wants the left seat ASAP. So yes we can't hire street captains but they can run a bid and if there are open spots in the next upgrade class then any new hires with the required time would be eligible to attend the upgrade class in seniority order. They would complete IOE as an FO and then go right into upgrade.
02-28-2015 | 10:17 AM
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Even if we could hire street captains, there is absolutely no need right now or in the near future. About half of the people in each new hire class has 1000 hours of 121 time. Several of these people have been captains previously at other airlines. These are the guys that are upgrading in 8-10 months. Couple that with the FO's that were hired over a year ago that have not upgraded yet, and there are plenty of people to upgrade.
02-28-2015 | 10:21 AM
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Even if we could hire street captains, there is absolutely no need right now or in the near future. About half of the people in each new hire class has 1000 hours of 121 time. Several of these people have been captains previously at other airlines. These are the guys that are upgrading in 8-10 months. Couple that with the FO's that were hired over a year ago that have not upgraded yet, and there are plenty of people to upgrade.
02-28-2015 | 10:30 AM
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We are upgrading 20 a month well into the year 2017 and you can't force FOs to bid captain even if they have the time so while it looks okay for now we have a long way to go and after each captain bid the trend towards new hire captains is getting closer and closer. The junior captain went from March to June and then to August 2014 in just two bids. Why didn't all of those FOs with the 1000 hrs bid captain? Why did it drop to August 2014 so quickly?
02-28-2015 | 10:30 AM
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We are upgrading 20 a month well into the year 2017 and you can't force FOs to bid captain even if they have the time so while it looks okay for now we have a long way to go and after each captain bid the trend towards new hire captains is getting closer and closer. The junior captain went from March to June and then to August 2014 in just two bids. Why didn't all of those FOs with the 1000 hrs bid captain? Why did it drop to August 2014 so quickly?
Yes, the reserve here is so bad that people are willing to not double their salary in order to avoid it.
02-28-2015 | 10:33 AM
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That is a very good point. The 6-9 month upgrades will have new captains senior to them for the next year...thus a long time on reserve.
02-28-2015 | 10:45 AM
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FYI they said they are not going to do 16 per class anymore, it is going back to 10 per class with classes going every two weeks. It is not mostly Endeavor guys, a friend of mine is in upgrade right now and their is only 1 Endeavor (former captain) in the class. We will see how the next few bids go but the current trend is going down below 6 month upgrades and I do not think we will see a huge wave of "senior" FOs start to flock to upgrade classes soon.
02-28-2015 | 12:00 PM
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The next new hire class starts in 2 days (March 2nd). They usually send out the information a few weeks before class, give or take a week. It depends on how busy the staff is. I know my class got ours a month ahead of time, when other classes received theirs 2 weeks out.
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