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Old 03-22-2015 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jumpseat2024
74 hours 31 min of time away from base
Thanks! Is that posted in the line above somewhere? I'm sure indoc explains all these things but knowledge is power.

TAFB? 74 hours 31 minutes of per diem, yes yes?
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Old 03-22-2015 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc1010
Thanks! Is that posted in the line above somewhere? I'm sure indoc explains all these things but knowledge is power.
Yep..its abbreviated as TAFB. You'll see it listed with each individual trip as well as totaled up for an entire line when bidding.
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Old 03-22-2015 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by azcz10
Ideally you want 30 hours in a 4-day, 24 hours in a 3-day, 16 hours in a 2-day and so on. 30 in 7 days is the legal limit. You gotta be gone for 4 days so you'd rather spend them flying & making money rather than in the hotel or airport. You'll likely never see 30 hours in a 4-day trip. If you see 27 or so hours..... it'll probably be flown by a senior crew. The reserves and junior crews get what's left over and they're often inefficient, or weekends, or early report & late finishes, non-commutable, etc.
Just an FYI, 30 in 7 went away with 117.
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Old 03-22-2015 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jumpseat2024
Yep..its abbreviated as TAFB. You'll see it listed with each individual trip as well as totaled up for an entire line when bidding.
Cool. Despite that this may be an awful line, I have learned something. And that's great.
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Old 03-22-2015 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by weekendflyer
Doesn't matter if its in open time, someone has to waste 4 days to do this crap
Meh..I wouldn't mind it. I'm a reserve and it prevents me from needing a hotel in CLT. It would be better though from the get go if the trip was split up and the flying allocated to producing higher credit four days.
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Old 03-22-2015 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by motormadness
Just an FYI, 30 in 7 went away with 117.
Correct.

A flightcrew member is limited to 100 hours of flight time in 672 consecutive hours (28 days). This is a “rolling” 672 hours and replaces the former limit of 100 hours in any calendar month and the former monthly and quarterly limits for international augmented operations. The 30 or 32 hours in 7 days limit has also been eliminated. A flightcrew member is also limited to 1,000 hours in any 365 consecutive day period. This is a rolling 365 days and replaces the 1,000 hours in a calendar year limit.

A flightcrew member may not exceed 60 FDP hours in any 168 “rolling” consecutive hours (7 days) and 190 FDP hours in any “rolling” 672 consecutive hours (28 days).
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Old 03-22-2015 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc1010
Cool. Despite that this may be an awful line, I have learned something. And that's great.
Yeah they can only cover so much in indoc. Unfortunately a lot of this type of stuff is 'learn as you go'
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Old 03-22-2015 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by azcz10
Ideally you want 30 hours in a 4-day, 24 hours in a 3-day, 16 hours in a 2-day and so on. 30 in 7 days is the legal limit. You gotta be gone for 4 days so you'd rather spend them flying & making money rather than in the hotel or airport. You'll likely never see 30 hours in a 4-day trip. If you see 27 or so hours..... it'll probably be flown by a senior crew. The reserves and junior crews get what's left over and they're often inefficient, or weekends, or early report & late finishes, non-commutable, etc.

That would be nice. I do have a 28 hour 4 day for my next months line. A few lines have multiple 26-28 hour 4 days.


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Old 03-22-2015 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond
Correct.

A flightcrew member is limited to 100 hours of flight time in 672 consecutive hours (28 days). This is a “rolling” 672 hours and replaces the former limit of 100 hours in any calendar month and the former monthly and quarterly limits for international augmented operations. The 30 or 32 hours in 7 days limit has also been eliminated. A flightcrew member is also limited to 1,000 hours in any 365 consecutive day period. This is a rolling 365 days and replaces the 1,000 hours in a calendar year limit.

A flightcrew member may not exceed 60 FDP hours in any 168 “rolling” consecutive hours (7 days) and 190 FDP hours in any “rolling” 672 consecutive hours (28 days).
I have not flown 121 since 117 came into effect. I read over 117 and I do recall the FDP limits and limits on the number of legs you can fly based on what time zone you start in and how long you have been "acclimated". Man...30 in 7 was a lot easier to understand. Must have been a tax lawyer that wrote the 117 stuff!
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Old 03-22-2015 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyDingus
That would be nice. I do have a 28 hour 4 day for my next months line. A few lines have multiple 26-28 hour 4 days.


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Wow, I just looked at TYS trips for april. There's a bunch of really high credit 4-days in the 24-29 hours range. The average in every base is usually about 20 hours give or take.
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