Apparently you don't know what's in the contract.


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Then please correct me? Did they not vote in pay caps for new hires once jets get on property?

 

Yes we did vote in our contract. And if we hadn't then the next airline would've. Piedmont was once the top Regional Airlines. Top Pay, Best Contract, Best Pilots. But we did we drop to one of the not so good airlines over the last 15 years. Why?? Mesa came in Started flying 145's for much less then us. Then Comes other airlines along doing flying for less money then what we were making flying 37 seat Turbo Props. Then we had people leaving PDT to go fly an EMB 175 for half the pay and half the contract.

How did Professionalism and holding the line work out for Piedmont??? Even PSA told AAG to go screw off when first offered the 900's. What did Parker do??? Sent those 900's to Mesa..... And he would've sent them to someone else had PSA said no again.

While we sit back and want to make the Regions more professional then they are the bottom line is we are all bottom feeders and are only as strong as ALPA will lets us be.

It Is what it is..... You are right maybe we don't see eye to eye on the Regionals but it's okay. We can both hope for a perfect world.

 

Horrible lol

 

If you're referring to PSA (since this is a PSA thread and all) the 12/4 caps apply to everyone and went into effect when the first of the 900s were delivered. If you were above those then you were frozen at whatever step you were at.

That said, there's still annual raises in the contract out to 2023 or something like that.

 

The people above that were only frozen if they did not apply to mainline. There was a time limit set and if you did not have your application in, you were frozen. So the guys at 12+ years did not lose any pay.

 

You don't have to justify it, like you said it is what it is. You, PSA, and Endeavor voted in 12/4 caps and as a result that is now the new (lower) norm. Everyone had their reasons and it is not my intention to get into a debate about voting in concessions, that dead horse has been beaten. But don't say the only way to raise the bar is to raise pay when you work for a company who has recently approved a pay cap for new hires.

I was referring strictly to professionalism and the responsibility each and every one of us has, mainline and regionals alike. You can and should act like a professional even if you are a bottom feeder and don't get paid a lot.

 

I was referring to piedmont. That's who billy works for (he wolnt stop plugging it at least)

What's more is that PSA has a worse contract than Piedmont, pay caps for all not just new hires. Why would you call me out if you thought I was saying your contract was better than it actually is, and point out that it's worse than what I said?

 

Actually what's worse is pretty much every contract...and the way the entire airline industry pays. At pretty much every job I've worked...you get paid for every hour...including OT. At the Rail road you get a 4500 mo base plus 500 to 1100 per day for each trip you make. It's pathetic one would be ok with working a 10 or 12 hour day....but only getting paid for 4 5 or 6 block.........per diem is a joke too.....we will give you 1.25 or 1.75 etc....so Ya feel better......after realizing your working for free and getting ripped off. I guess it doesn't register for some after seeing 20 or 25 hours of credit for a 4 day trip......lol I just don't get it....in fact I don't even wanna touch the medical or retirement benefits at most airlines....

 

You must not like something about it, because you are still on this forum. If it was that great, you would be on a train board somewhere.