Or heart disease because that is the number one killer


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This guy has all the answers...

Hypocrisy at its best

 

You like to use that word a lot. I came in here and made some logical observations. You responded out of context to what I wrote, became accusatory and played "know-it-all". Now you are upset that I disagree with your out of context post and are escalating to a junior high level.

 

I'm not upset at all. If anything, I feel bad for you since you find the need to come back to this thread again and again. Anyone who wants to know your hidden agenda in your most recent "concern", can go back a few pages and find your true agenda.

 

I post in a lot of threads. I also recently made a thread that was negative about my own airline.

I believe my concern to be a legitimate one. Time will tell. I hope I am wrong.

 

You are generalizing this pilot group way too much. Not every CA and FO are "low-time". How is it any different at Envoy when you have a new hire in a CRJ with a new CA that came off the EMB?

 

If someone starts a new thread about this, can we agree to move this topic there? It is happening everywhere, and it is not just a PSA issue. Other people may get something from this, and there is no reason to say that it is a PSA only issue.

If no one else wants to start it, I will be happy to.

 

I didn't say they were.

In your situation with envoy, the new CA coming off the EMJ would have at least 8 years of experience flying 121 at this point. My concern with PSA is that it is quite possible to get a brand new Captain, who has upgraded in just a few months of line service, with the minimum 1000 hrs 121 time, with perhaps a hundred hours in type, sitting next to a 1500 hour new guy who had 5 busts in primary training. You see it is not about any one variable, but too many of them together. I would agree that switching airplanes from FO to CA is not that big of a concern by itself; I never said it was. Someone took what I initially said and ran with just this one part, though I was clear.

Can it happen elsewhere? Sure! Mesa and TSA have short upgrades too, but currently, as Pagey said, PSA is the lowest. I was actually just asking if he thought it would be a concern. CLT guy clarified that it probably is the exception to the rule as most of your FOs currently upgrading come from other regionals like Endeavor, with 5+ years experience and plenty of CRJ time.

I'm trying to be a nicer guy here, but some of you run off on the defensive too much. If your effort is to silence any naysaying, have you noticed it has the opposite effect? If you had let it die with the normal and rational conversations Pagey and CLT guy had, I would not still be here posting.

 

How are everyones oral check rides going? I've been getting mixed reviews some say it last 3 hours, and I have also heard 30 min.

Is everyone pretty much over prepared by the end of ground school? What should the study material be for the most part? Any gouges?

 

I'll PM you a gouge.

The difference in the time between different people has a lot to do with people already having a type rating in the plane and 5000 hours. If you are new to the airplane, it will likely last at least 2.5 hours.

It isn't a big deal at all, and you will be over prepared for it. You will have a 4 hour "end of course" exam before you leave Dayton which will cover everything that you will be asked in your oral plus a great deal more. You will have to pass that before training ends, so if you can pass the end of course, you should be able to pass the oral.

The oral covers just about everything that you see during training, and it is comprehensive. It is not easy, but it is a fair representation of the knowledge base that you should have at that point.

If you study during training, the oral is really a non-event. If, however, you do not study or are missing quite a bit of knowledge, you will fail. It is NOT a guarantee pass.

There are always one or two that fail because of their own lack of trying. If you do fail, you will likely be given the chance to retrain in Dayton, depending on your attitude and the effort that you put forward to that point. If you worked hard but made a couple mistakes, you will be given the chance to retrain. In my class, one failed, and it was the person that we never saw in study groups in the hotel lobby or in the training building on Saturdays when we often met in groups.