The Useful PSA Thread
#2702
Piedmont slots will increase once it's fleet hits a certain size with the 145's. AAG will do what it takes to keep the WO'ed staffed and if that means increasing the flow to attack new hires then they will.
Once you figure in the flow of ENY, PSA, and PDT you will eventually find it very hard to get on with American without going through one of there WO's. That's they way Parker wants it. I'm not saying you can't but it will be much more difficult.
But really who cares about the flow?? It's nice to have in your back pocket but to upgrade at PSA/PDT in two years or less and then get your PIC time you can hit most any other Major Airline before you flow number even comes up. I love the moment of the flow because I'm bidding a much better schedule having all the senior folks leaving. Good Stuff!
Once you figure in the flow of ENY, PSA, and PDT you will eventually find it very hard to get on with American without going through one of there WO's. That's they way Parker wants it. I'm not saying you can't but it will be much more difficult.
But really who cares about the flow?? It's nice to have in your back pocket but to upgrade at PSA/PDT in two years or less and then get your PIC time you can hit most any other Major Airline before you flow number even comes up. I love the moment of the flow because I'm bidding a much better schedule having all the senior folks leaving. Good Stuff!
#2703
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Maybe you should read that section again. It says they must meet and discuss increasing the minimum. Not that they must actually do anything. Doug doesn't want to give up his cheap labor, needs to staff the new planes.
#2704
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Ideally you want 30 hours in a 4-day, 24 hours in a 3-day, 16 hours in a 2-day and so on. 30 in 7 days is the legal limit. You gotta be gone for 4 days so you'd rather spend them flying & making money rather than in the hotel or airport. You'll likely never see 30 hours in a 4-day trip. If you see 27 or so hours..... it'll probably be flown by a senior crew. The reserves and junior crews get what's left over and they're often inefficient, or weekends, or early report & late finishes, non-commutable, etc.
That use to be standard before 117 ..
I haven't seen a 4 day worth more than
22 hrs or so
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#2705
Of course he doesn't but he doesn't want a bunch of 10 year captains running around in his CRJ-900's either. During a crew news session he said he wants pilots to stay at the WO'ed for 6-8 years and move on. That keeps his cost down.
#2707
You could work a day anywhere other than PSA, PDT, or Envoy and then apply. Ironically, the best way to mainline is probably not through a flow... When I applied at PSA I had no clue what a flow was. My fancy aviation degree didn't teach me this!
#2708
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What does a fancy aviation degree teach anyway? I've been curious to know.
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#2709
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But really who cares about the flow?? It's nice to have in your back pocket but to upgrade at PSA/PDT in two years or less and then get your PIC time you can hit most any other Major Airline before you flow number even comes up. I love the moment of the flow because I'm bidding a much better schedule having all the senior folks leaving. Good Stuff!
That being said I agree that a flow is a nice backup but ultimately its unnecessary and more or less a distraction given the protected hiring thats about to occur. Everyone is going to get a chance in the next few years, flows really only help management not even to keep you there longer but to get you there in the first place. If ultimately the only way to AA is by waiting for a flow, with little to no opportunity of getting an interview earlier or through your own effort, then we'll all have lost a little more control over our careers and when we can "get out".
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