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Old 04-11-2015 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bradjakey
What were class sizes before? Are smaller classes a sign of hiring slowing down?

35 ish. And no, it's to help alleviate training backlog. This is what I've heard, which makes sense to do this. Hiring 50 a month is still a lot.


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Old 04-12-2015 | 07:32 AM
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As stated above the 25 per class is just to alleviate training back logs and have guys just sitting at home waiting for IOE. The 700 classes were told to expect 4 months from start date to IOE. As far as hiring slowing down, I don't see that happening any time soon. The head of operations mentioned as long as classes stay full American will continue to send more planes our way past what has already been announced. That can always change tomorrow but that's the direction things appear to be going. It was mentioned PSA has the lowest operational cost out of all the regionals doing American flying so that's always a good sign for the future.
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Old 04-12-2015 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by badtransam97
How does the base seniority thing work? I'm zero 121 experience, so not familiar with how you lose seniority base to base.
You don't lose your seniority. Well you kind of do in a matter of speaking but not the way you are understanding it.

The base you want to transfer to may have more senior people than you.

You could hold top 20 percent in the more junior base and be at the bottom 20 percent at a more senior base.

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Old 04-12-2015 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Blueskies67
As stated above the 25 per class is just to alleviate training back logs and have guys just sitting at home waiting for IOE. The 700 classes were told to expect 4 months from start date to IOE. As far as hiring slowing down, I don't see that happening any time soon. The head of operations mentioned as long as classes stay full American will continue to send more planes our way past what has already been announced. That can always change tomorrow but that's the direction things appear to be going. It was mentioned PSA has the lowest operational cost out of all the regionals doing American flying so that's always a good sign for the future.
A good sign for who? PSA pay blows and over the years I've seen it go down instead of up. Sad.
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Old 04-12-2015 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo
A good sign for who? PSA pay blows and over the years I've seen it go down instead of up. Sad.
The pay blows everywhere.....

When did the pay go down at PSA?
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Old 04-12-2015 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo
A good sign for who? PSA pay blows and over the years I've seen it go down instead of up. Sad.
It actually goes up every quarter now, and is quite a bit better than what is posted on APC. I went up almost $1/hr last quarter. It isn't mainline pay, but it is certainly competitive to any other regionals. For my time with the company, I would like to see another regional pay me more.

Sure, I would prefer 757 mainline FO pay, but that is not the current reality right now.
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy

Sure, I would prefer 757 mainline FO pay, but that is not the current reality right now.
As soon as a 700 or 900 could generate the same revenue as a 757 or even a 737 you might see equal pay rates.
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Old 04-12-2015 | 03:33 PM
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Do you guys see the need for street captains in the next year? Or do enough guys getting hired have there time?
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Old 04-12-2015 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
Do you guys see the need for street captains in the next year? Or do enough guys getting hired have there time?
Their upgrade is actually artificially low now. People are upgrading out of order because their new hire hiring craze really didn't kick off until spring last year. In the next 3-5 months, the pipeline of 1000 hr 121 new hires will start uograding and that train won't stop. With over 1100 pilots now, they have hired their growth Captains for the most part. It is simple math. I don't think their upgrade time will be super high - maybe 3-4 years for a new hire starting this summer, but don't think you are gonna go their and uograde in a year and a half.
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Old 04-12-2015 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Their upgrade is actually artificially low now. People are upgrading out of order because their new hire hiring craze really didn't kick off until spring last year. In the next 3-5 months, the pipeline of 1000 hr 121 new hires will start uograding and that train won't stop. With over 1100 pilots now, they have hired their growth Captains for the most part. It is simple math. I don't think their upgrade time will be super high - maybe 3-4 years for a new hire starting this summer, but don't think you are gonna go their and uograde in a year and a half.
There are currently 1100 pilots on property, and we will need about 1800-1900 when everything is settled. With attrition of 15-20 a month, upgrades will likely be under 2 years for people hired in the next 3-6 months. There is no doubt that it will get longer, but with the additional 900s that were just announced, it will be a few months longer.
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