The Useful PSA Thread
05-12-2015, 09:08 PM
#4191
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Originally Posted by pagey
Thank you.
Now, have you seen the rest of the letter? If so please post it, or at least copy and paste the EXACT LANGUAGE.
There is absolutely nothing underhanded, or negative for Eagle pilots in that snippet you have posted. There is nothing mentioning any kind of staple, or any kind of DOH for that matter. No mention of flow positive or negative.
That little picture is most likely the only part of the letter that has been leaked and is all that any pilot at Eagle has seen.
If there were some kind of damning language in there I'm sure you sharks would have posted it by now.
Now, have you seen the rest of the letter? If so please post it, or at least copy and paste the EXACT LANGUAGE.
There is absolutely nothing underhanded, or negative for Eagle pilots in that snippet you have posted. There is nothing mentioning any kind of staple, or any kind of DOH for that matter. No mention of flow positive or negative.
That little picture is most likely the only part of the letter that has been leaked and is all that any pilot at Eagle has seen.
If there were some kind of damning language in there I'm sure you sharks would have posted it by now.
We aren't sharks. We are trained hunters. Keep eating the bait.
Ahh.....either the OP took the post down or the mods did. Tell Ya what. I took some pics. If I can get the front page again I'll take the two and slap them up on YouTube for Ya
05-12-2015, 09:10 PM
#4192
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Originally Posted by pagey
Thank you.
Now, have you seen the rest of the letter? If so please post it, or at least copy and paste the EXACT LANGUAGE.
There is absolutely nothing underhanded, or negative for Eagle pilots in that snippet you have posted. There is nothing mentioning any kind of staple, or any kind of DOH for that matter. No mention of flow positive or negative.
That little picture is most likely the only part of the letter that has been leaked and is all that any pilot at Eagle has seen.
If there were some kind of damning language in there I'm sure you sharks would have posted it by now.
Now, have you seen the rest of the letter? If so please post it, or at least copy and paste the EXACT LANGUAGE.
There is absolutely nothing underhanded, or negative for Eagle pilots in that snippet you have posted. There is nothing mentioning any kind of staple, or any kind of DOH for that matter. No mention of flow positive or negative.
That little picture is most likely the only part of the letter that has been leaked and is all that any pilot at Eagle has seen.
If there were some kind of damning language in there I'm sure you sharks would have posted it by now.
Sorry, call your rep. I won't post the first page. It's all whining about hotel being degraded, how the company can't staff the flying, CRJ9, cRJ7, blah blah blah.
The third paragraph say "our original agreement", blah blah blah blah.
Call your rep...
05-12-2015, 09:10 PM
#4193
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
No you made that up!!!
But wait it's good for the envoy pilots and PSA pilots right? Why are we whining?
But you are completely staffed for these planes? I don't get it. Why is your union acting all 9/11 about staffing? Gee. Tell Ya what. Sleep on it and get your best people in here with more misdirection tomorrow!
By the way - The first page is better
But wait it's good for the envoy pilots and PSA pilots right? Why are we whining?
But you are completely staffed for these planes? I don't get it. Why is your union acting all 9/11 about staffing? Gee. Tell Ya what. Sleep on it and get your best people in here with more misdirection tomorrow!
By the way - The first page is better
Your group's PSA hate is clouding this issue.
Where is the rest of the letter?
05-12-2015, 09:14 PM
#4195
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Sorry, call your rep. I won't post the first page. It's all whining about hotel being degraded, how the company can't staff the flying, CRJ9, cRJ7, blah blah blah.
The third paragraph say "our original agreement", blah blah blah blah.
Call your rep...
The third paragraph say "our original agreement", blah blah blah blah.
Call your rep...
So I'll just go ahead and bring this thing full circle and ask how in the world this is a negative thing for Eagle pilots? There is not one single thing in there that would be bad for an Eagle pilot. Nothing about forcing, nothing about staple, nothing.
Don't come back and tell me that it's bad because Eagle pilots want to upgrade at Eagle.......THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Once again, your group is spinning this because of your ill will towards PSA.
05-12-2015, 09:15 PM
#4196
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Originally Posted by pagey
Maybe they want the best for Eagle pilots who may be, or have been harmed by AAG's money grab at their W.O. carriers. It's not always about screwing someone over, they may genuinely be trying to do something good.
Your group's PSA hate is clouding this issue.
Where is the rest of the letter?
Your group's PSA hate is clouding this issue.
Where is the rest of the letter?
The first page is much much more specific as to what is going on at your place. You want that to be public? Ask your Union for it. Ask them what they mean by the current plan not working.
05-12-2015, 09:19 PM
#4197
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Oh come on Pagey. I kind of liked you. If you are being passé about this.......
We aren't sharks. We are trained hunters. Keep eating the bait.
Ahh.....either the OP took the post down or the mods did. Tell Ya what. I took some pics. If I can get the front page again I'll take the two and slap them up on YouTube for Ya
We aren't sharks. We are trained hunters. Keep eating the bait.
Ahh.....either the OP took the post down or the mods did. Tell Ya what. I took some pics. If I can get the front page again I'll take the two and slap them up on YouTube for Ya
Anywho, I'm not being passe. I'm challenging you guys to produce language that you cannot because it does not exist. There is nothing negative in that letter for Eagle pilots.
As far as eating the bait.....I did get someone to post the letter. Do you think that was an accident? Do you like me again now?
05-12-2015, 09:22 PM
#4198
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Originally Posted by pagey
So that little bit is all there is about Eagle pilots being transferred to PSA?
So I'll just go ahead and bring this thing full circle and ask how in the world this is a negative thing for Eagle pilots? There is not one single thing in there that would be bad for an Eagle pilot. Nothing about forcing, nothing about staple, nothing.
Don't come back and tell me that it's bad because Eagle pilots want to upgrade at Eagle.......THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Once again, your group is spinning this because of your ill will towards PSA.
So I'll just go ahead and bring this thing full circle and ask how in the world this is a negative thing for Eagle pilots? There is not one single thing in there that would be bad for an Eagle pilot. Nothing about forcing, nothing about staple, nothing.
Don't come back and tell me that it's bad because Eagle pilots want to upgrade at Eagle.......THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Once again, your group is spinning this because of your ill will towards PSA.
Don't act like our freaking saviors. There is nothing in this letter that says anything like that. Instead, it screams of some desperate people trying to save themselves. I thought you were going to be one of the exceptions to the rules of PSA pilots. Instead, you are right on the bandwagon with them. I now question your own motives.
Tell ya what, I keep trying to head off to sleep. Tomorrow I'll do what I can to get a copy of the first page. If not I'll fill in the important stuff. I'll make a nice new post with all the pictures and stuff. I'll take these last 20 pages and make a brilliantly succinct message for all to see. Night!
05-12-2015, 09:22 PM
#4199
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From the glimpse I got its weak fellas. Has anyone even stopped to think about subtext, maybe the union is trying to sound some staffing alarms to gain necessary negotiating capital to extract some improvements in upcoming rounds. And it has been pointed out that there is no specification of the kind of transfer that would take place and subsequent negative effects on Envoy. Unimpressed so far.
05-12-2015, 09:24 PM
#4200
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Your groups lust for domination is clouding yours. Keeping the airplanes longer is what is best for our pilot group. My money is on you getting the 700s, just significantly slower.
The first page is much much more specific as to what is going on at your place. You want that to be public? Ask your Union for it. Ask them what they mean by the current plan not working.
The first page is much much more specific as to what is going on at your place. You want that to be public? Ask your Union for it. Ask them what they mean by the current plan not working.
As far as the other issues on the first page I am well aware of what the issues are. I'm asking to see parts of the letter that specifically pertain to Eagle pilots.
As of right now that last page is the only part relevant to Eagle, and there is nothing malicious about it at all.
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