The Useful PSA Thread
05-10-2015 | 07:36 AM
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Also, ASE is extremely profitable route for AAG, a route they put a lot of money upfront for, they will absolutely delay a fleet transfer to preserve that...just trying to whittle down the BS and find out if the word on the line is valid...
05-10-2015 | 10:59 AM
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The Useful PSA Thread
I'm at a loss why everyone thinks that ASE is currently some make or break thing for PSA. The last Envoy CRJ won't be transferred for almost 2 years, which might as well be an eternity in airline years. It's not like the ASE flying has to be transferred ASAP.
If the last few are coming on and there is still no program in place, then panic.
If the last few are coming on and there is still no program in place, then panic.
05-10-2015 | 11:49 AM
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If those 700's do end up over there it will cause street captains because you guys don't have enough FOs that can upgrade. Many chased a "quick upgrade promise" and what's about to happen is the senior FOs from lots of other regionals are about to come in and take all the available CA slots as street captains. there goes the quick upgrade. Good luck with the 4 interviews per month for more movement.
Meanwhile at Envoy the company plans to eventually begin upgrading while advertising a 250-300 pilot per year flow creating the need for 250-300 new captains each year, not including the guys going to UA and DL. Their plan should have you go from new hire to AA in under six years, not the 20 year interview wait PSA offers. Great, if your career goal is to work for PSA for two decades.
Your MEC is so scared of the 700's actually coming over that they're trying to beg ALPA national to ask AAG to send pilots with the planes because you guys can't staff them, can't upgrade, and will throttle your trickle of a flow.
Meanwhile at Envoy the company plans to eventually begin upgrading while advertising a 250-300 pilot per year flow creating the need for 250-300 new captains each year, not including the guys going to UA and DL. Their plan should have you go from new hire to AA in under six years, not the 20 year interview wait PSA offers. Great, if your career goal is to work for PSA for two decades.
Your MEC is so scared of the 700's actually coming over that they're trying to beg ALPA national to ask AAG to send pilots with the planes because you guys can't staff them, can't upgrade, and will throttle your trickle of a flow.
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05-10-2015 | 11:56 AM
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If those 700's do end up over there it will cause street captains because you guys don't have enough FOs that can upgrade. Many chased a "quick upgrade promise" and what's about to happen is the senior FOs from lots of other regionals are about to come in and take all the available CA slots as street captains. there goes the quick upgrade. Good luck with the 4 interviews per month for more movement.
Meanwhile at Envoy the company plans to eventually begin upgrading while advertising a 250-300 pilot per year flow creating the need for 250-300 new captains each year, not including the guys going to UA and DL. Their plan should have you go from new hire to AA in under six years, not the 20 year interview wait PSA offers. We also don't have a massive fleet mandate that would require withholding from flow. So, we can just flow while others with hard minimums get withheld to staff their regional. Great, if your career goal is to work for PSA for two decades.
Your MEC is so scared of the 700's actually coming over that they're trying to beg ALPA national to ask AAG to send pilots with the planes because you guys can't staff them, can't upgrade, and will throttle your trickle of a flow.
Meanwhile at Envoy the company plans to eventually begin upgrading while advertising a 250-300 pilot per year flow creating the need for 250-300 new captains each year, not including the guys going to UA and DL. Their plan should have you go from new hire to AA in under six years, not the 20 year interview wait PSA offers. We also don't have a massive fleet mandate that would require withholding from flow. So, we can just flow while others with hard minimums get withheld to staff their regional. Great, if your career goal is to work for PSA for two decades.
Your MEC is so scared of the 700's actually coming over that they're trying to beg ALPA national to ask AAG to send pilots with the planes because you guys can't staff them, can't upgrade, and will throttle your trickle of a flow.
05-10-2015 | 11:57 AM
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If those 700's do end up over there it will cause street captains because you guys don't have enough FOs that can upgrade. Many chased a "quick upgrade promise" and what's about to happen is the senior FOs from lots of other regionals are about to come in and take all the available CA slots as street captains. there goes the quick upgrade. Good luck with the 4 interviews per month for more movement.
Meanwhile at Envoy the company plans to eventually begin upgrading while advertising a 250-300 pilot per year flow creating the need for 250-300 new captains each year, not including the guys going to UA and DL. Their plan should have you go from new hire to AA in under six years, not the 20 year interview wait PSA offers. We also don't have a massive fleet mandate that would require withholding from flow. So, we can just flow while others with hard minimums get withheld to staff their regional. Great, if your career goal is to work for PSA for two decades.
Meanwhile at Envoy the company plans to eventually begin upgrading while advertising a 250-300 pilot per year flow creating the need for 250-300 new captains each year, not including the guys going to UA and DL. Their plan should have you go from new hire to AA in under six years, not the 20 year interview wait PSA offers. We also don't have a massive fleet mandate that would require withholding from flow. So, we can just flow while others with hard minimums get withheld to staff their regional. Great, if your career goal is to work for PSA for two decades.
Are you going to commute to reserve once NYC closes or attempt to wedge yourself into a NC position so you don't have to live under the new awesome reserve language your company just created out of nowhere that is a violation of your current CBA?
05-10-2015 | 12:10 PM
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Out of all people you know the numbers are going to increase and be changed to a flow, basically a carbon copy of the PDT language for PSA soon so don't even try to play the ignorant Envoy pilot card. Plus that assumes Envoy does not lose more E145s to XJT or TSA which will probably happen since you are getting about 5 new hires a month which soon will not be enough to staff the few airplanes you have left. Envoy is still losing FOs every month to PSA, Compass, and Mesa so don't try to pretend its going to be awesome at Envoy anytime soon.
As to your other question, I already commute and because of the time change it requires leaving the house 15-20 minutes earlier to go to a place where hotels are $40 instead of $150 and where I'll have 45 junior to me instead of 5. Sign me up !!!
Your other insinuations are just as wrong as that was.
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