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03-06-2017 | 02:53 PM
#6501
BlueYonder
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You can ride the jumpseat on PSA planes as soon as you have company ID. Supposedly you're not in CASS until after you complete OE.
03-06-2017 | 02:57 PM
#6502
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Normal non-rev travel benefits start 16 days after starting Indoc. But you can supposedly ride the jump seat on company airplanes as soon as you get your badge.
03-06-2017 | 04:05 PM
#6503
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The 2 posters above me are correct, but with the training footprint like it is right now you won't really have much time for personal travel. Some people will try to travel home during a few weekends in ground school, but you had better make sure you get back by the start of class Monday morning or they could terminate you.
03-06-2017 | 04:37 PM
#6504
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Anyone deciding to jumpseat during training I would recommend memorizing the Jumpseat location in the FOM. It helps the Captain when he gives you the *** look. You get very use to seeing the CASS printouts. So a new guy coming up with just an ID sometimes throws you for a loop in my experience.
Also DO NOT jumpseat if your on ANY positive space ticket and there aren't open seats in the back BEYOND yours. PSA bought a ticket, away from AA revenue pax, for your butt to occupy the seat. It is also a huge slap in the face to any commuters that might need the jump.
I only jumped for observational reasons after I determined the flights were wide open with no commuters needing the jump.
03-06-2017 | 04:46 PM
#6505
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PSA metal jumpseating works before you get CASS. I decided to jump on my flights to and from oral for observation.
I would recommend memorizing the Jumpseat location in the FOM. It helps the Captain when he gives you the *** look. You get very use to seeing the CASS printouts. So a new guy coming up with just an ID sometimes throws you for a loop in my experience.
Also DO NOT jumpseat if your on ANY positive space ticket and there aren't open seats in the back BEYOND yours. PSA bought a ticket, away from AA revenue pax, for your butt to occupy the seat. It is also a huge slap in the face to any commuters that might need the jump.
I only jumped for observational reasons after I determined the flights were wide open with no commuters needing the jump.
I would recommend memorizing the Jumpseat location in the FOM. It helps the Captain when he gives you the *** look. You get very use to seeing the CASS printouts. So a new guy coming up with just an ID sometimes throws you for a loop in my experience.
Also DO NOT jumpseat if your on ANY positive space ticket and there aren't open seats in the back BEYOND yours. PSA bought a ticket, away from AA revenue pax, for your butt to occupy the seat. It is also a huge slap in the face to any commuters that might need the jump.
I only jumped for observational reasons after I determined the flights were wide open with no commuters needing the jump.
As a rule, if you have a positive space ticket, DO NOT take the jump seat. It can bump a commuting pilot off of it. But, if it is empty anyways, talk to the captain.
Personally, I would welcome any new hire pilot that wants to learn and get better. Most all captains would.
03-06-2017 | 06:00 PM
#6506
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Good advice, but... if you are a new hire, and you want to observe, tell the captain the situation. If there is no one on the jumpseat, he/she will likely tell you to sit up front anyways. If there is another pilot on the jump seat, that person would prefer to be in the back anyways, so you can likely switch without getting the gate agent involved.
As a rule, if you have a positive space ticket, DO NOT take the jump seat. It can bump a commuting pilot off of it. But, if it is empty anyways, talk to the captain.
Personally, I would welcome any new hire pilot that wants to learn and get better. Most all captains would.
As a rule, if you have a positive space ticket, DO NOT take the jump seat. It can bump a commuting pilot off of it. But, if it is empty anyways, talk to the captain.
Personally, I would welcome any new hire pilot that wants to learn and get better. Most all captains would.
The FAA put out a NPRM a few months ago on requiring observation flights for new hires.
EDIT: Here is the NPRM. The comments closed in January. So I bet it's still in review. https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...al-development
03-06-2017 | 06:09 PM
#6507
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Yeah all the captains I've ever asked at both places I've been have always tried to accommodate me.
The FAA put out a NPRM a few months ago on requiring observation flights for new hires.
EDIT: Here is the NPRM. The comments closed in January. So I bet it's still in review. https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...al-development
The FAA put out a NPRM a few months ago on requiring observation flights for new hires.
EDIT: Here is the NPRM. The comments closed in January. So I bet it's still in review. https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...al-development
03-06-2017 | 06:13 PM
#6508
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I have heard talks about what they are going to replace the 1500 hour rule with. One of the things that was mentioned was having new hires FO's fly a minimum of 250 hours on the jump seat and observing. It won't be loggable time, but will be a requirement if they are hired at 500 hours. The time on the jump seat will be considered "real world experience observations".
Only thing I would disagree with is it would vastly screw up commutes for the rest of us. But we don't own the seat it's technically the FAA's seat.
03-07-2017 | 03:39 AM
#6510
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I would imagine it would affect our ability to staff DCA. We cannot adequately staff it now as it is. Congrats to the Air Whiskey boys and girls. They've always been a great pilot group.
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