Regional airlines want to axe 1500 hour rule
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
135 is another animal entirely. Among many other differences they don't have a 1500/ATP rule so irrelevant to this discussion.
Basically some dude just said 1500 hours doesn't make a difference, while pointing out that we've had 1 fatality in 121 in the last five years but 1200 in 135???
I excluded SWA because that had nothing to do with pilots.
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Just a reminder. The United States reports the highest number of civil airliner accidents in the world. Around 1200 fatalities in commercial air transport in the US from 2015 to 2019 compared to 700 in all of Europe. Don’t get me wrong I’m not European. I’m just saying that this 1500 hours rule doesn’t make any sense. Everyday thousands of flights in Europe (Ryanair, Easyjet etc…) are taking off with copilots that are 25 years old who got their jobs with 250 hours logged. Do you think these compagnies are putting their passengers and planes in danger because of that? This is all politics here in the US. It has nothing to do with the fact that 1500 hours makes you a better pilot to drive a airliner.
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You’re telling me that 2500 hrs 121 plus checking and testing couldn’t fix what another 1000hrs part 91 SE piston would have?
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- Fatigue played a HUGE part in the accident.
- He had subpar performances and Evals dating back to flight school. It followed him into his professional career.
If it wasn’t P2F, he probably would’ve been kicked out a long time ago.
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1000 hours in GA might have scared him... either scared straight or maybe into quitting. I knew people who did both.
The guy did not understand his own limitations, somebody with his natural aptitude attempting to perform a brutally complex coupled straight-in ILS should not have been shooting the breeze with the FO, he should have been sitting up straight, laser-focused on managing his airspeed (since the AP was doing everything else).
Also the colgan crash was the chickens coming home to roost... for decades the regionals wouldn't touch pilots with less than 1000-3000 hours, but they got a little shortage going on and suddenly decided (some of them) to break their own rules. The fed just intervened to remove the temptation to make bad choices.
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