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The guys gotta point. Passing off resumes to HR for someone you saw post on an internet board is dangerous and stupid. I'm all about giving people information to get in here if they want to...but unless I've flown with you, you're not seeing my name attached to your resume...ever...

Now...if you want to see his resume to give advice on what he could fix or see if he would be a likely candidate, then fine. But if you're seriously thinking about passing this one on down the pipe...you're retarded.

 

Guess I am then. There is no harm in reviewing someone's resume and if you see fit passing it on the company as an able applicant. It's what the company wants. They aren't asking for you to personally vouch for the person or their flying skills. They simply need help in finding people that have decent qualifications. If there is someone with close TT and a good amount of his multi is twin turbine then there is no reason why you can't send his resume in saying you've found a candidate who's past experience you feel qualifies them for an interview. Once again you aren't attaching your name to the person or vouching for them.

You guys are making something big out of something that isn't. How many people do you know working at UPS or FedEX or a major that you keep in touch with hoping one day to have them walk your resume in but you've actually never flown with? My old CFI flies at NetJets and is upgrading to captain there. He loves it there and said he'd walk anyone's resume min because it's such a great company. Two people since have been hired because I emailed their resumes to him. That's what you call NETWORKING. Making contacts and friends. There's nothing wrong with it and it's almost a currency in this industry.

Only in this place could someone offer help and then shortly later people chime in unwanted or needed giving their 2 cents as to why they think you shouldn't when their opinions were never asked for because they never mattered to start with. I never asked either of you what you thought of it and don't care enough to change my mind on the subject. It's not near as big of a deal as you two are trying to make it. It's just pushing someone's resume to the front of the pile so they are gotten to sooner rather than later.

3.85GPA
CFI/CFII/MEI
230 multi.

The fact this person is putting in his dues as a CFI rather than running to Mesa, Colgan, a PFT program etc is enough for me to help push his to the front. Shows he has a little respect for the industry. More than I can say for several SJS guys that go to the first place that hires. Mont just keep doing what you're doing bud. You'll end up in a good spot sooner or later. Don't sell yourself short.

 

You went to the first jet operator that hired you.

 

Hey...do whatever you want man. But having been apart of hiring before, when you pass along a resume, yea, you are fixing your name to it whether you think you are or not. Sure, we've all been helped once or twice removed down the pipe (your NetJets example) but that's a far cry from picking a resume off an internet board and saying "This guy would be great for an interview."

 

Play on words. Fine I'll elaborate. I knew exactly where I wanted to work and I held out until I was hired there. I didn't take a job simply because they were the only company that would hire me with my big case of SJS, such as yourself, then leave them months later once I was hired on by a more reputable place. I try not to screw the industry meanwhile you don't really set yourself apart from those you complain about. There's a difference between working for what you want and taking the first and only thing that came along because you didn't want to be a CFI, fly freight, part 91, whatever for awhile.

 

You're assuming once again that I'd say "this guy would be great for an interview". I understand the implications of vouching for someone. There are different types of recommendations out there. They aren't all of the personal variety. It is very standard practice in the business world to recommend someone's resume because it's a good resume. I sent his in and specifically stated I had yet to fly with the individual and couldn't vouch for his abilities in the plane. However, his resume is somewhat impressive and deserves a look. Should you (HR) decide it's not yet worthy of an interview keep it on file and we'll update it regularly. I value someone that is out putting in his dues and think it shows something of his character. He's intelligent, hard working, and wants to be a part of our organization. I'll leave it to you(HR) to decide further.

That's the gist of what the letter was about. Simply "Hey I found a resume that looks promising take a look and see what you think" kind of thing.

So being helped by someone twice removed, who you don't really know, have never flown with, is different then helping someone you met on a message board how? It's not entirely much different. Sometimes you can pick things up about people. You guys assume the only communication I have with this individual is on this board for all to read. But what it comes down to is if someone displays a level headed way of thinking, puts in his dues, and wants to work. I don't have any reason trying to help them get a job. I understand what you're saying and feel free to say no. I don't have any problem looking at someone's resume and if I like it, sending it it.

 

Trans States wasn't the only company that would hire me. I actually turned down a few other jobs to go there, and refrained from sending resumes to other regionals who would have taken me. Oh yeah, I instructed before that, so there goes your last claim.
All I did there was build quality time at nobody's expense while flying with a good pilot group.
Then, after I built my time at TSA, I went to a decent regional where I'm about two or three numbers junior to you, yet will upgrade at an earlier age than you. (And, people like flying with me)
Meanwhile, you almost crashed a Merlin God knows how many times, and took money you didn't earn from the American taxpayers.
You can blabber on all you want about how I'm no different from GoJetters, or about how I'm an SJSer, but the rest of us know differently.
Oh, and what I said wasn't a play on words at all. It was the truth.

 

You couldn't me more wrong.I didn't screw any taxpayers out of anything I worked my butt off. You'll upgrade at a younger age is great. You annoyed everyone in class to where they'd sneak into your room at night to play practical jokes on you lol. You were a CFI for how long and how many hrs? You turned down other regional jobs and took Trans States to build time? There's no sense there and yes it does screw the industry as a whole. Why didn't you just hold out to work here if it's what you really wanted? You are a SJSer. You even said during indoc that Trans put you in the jet the quickest so it was a logical move and you decided to wait there till you got RAH because you are from the area and had a relationship with them from Purdue. You say everyone here might know you differently but how many have known you in person? It's not blabbering. If you weren't making a play on words then you were just making a stupid statement. Figures. As far as I've almost crashed an airplane god knows how many times? That's a very bold statement to go throwing around with no knowledge of anything. I've had an engine break in flight on a cessna and that's it. Your random dumb statements and acts are what made you the butt of most jokes in our class. You say what you want here. How do you think I figured out who you were? All the random "I want to make a smart arse" statment to try and sound cool meanwhile I'm a young bobby hill look alike that really gets on people's last nerve just stood out. There's plenty more story to tell and I'm refraining as you're the one who jumped in here making random inaccurate statements yet again. I'm here trying to help a guy get his resume in and you're off being stupid. You just made the ignore list yay!