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Old 01-06-2011 | 10:19 AM
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JB pay is 47 an hour to start, which is more than the top FO rate at comair. So it goes up from there. 62 or 67 2nd year

I went to another regional...which was paycut, so I cut costs (car just paid off) and will use some savings. And adjust spending as necessary.

It also comes down to "can you afford not to leave". I was going to get laid off from OH eventually and have 0 income. He may be forced to downgrade and saw that at this rate he was better off with the pay cut for one year with the ability for the pay to go up than to take the downgrade and only make top FO rate at comair with zero hope of it rising.

So leaving now for a job while I have the chance at a lower rate or stay and eventually have no income or affordable health insurance and still have to look for a job.

Not an easy decision, but you have to be think it out past the feeling of "it's a pay cut", because a pay cut is coming either way, you're just delaying it you stay.
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Old 01-06-2011 | 11:37 AM
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I think there is a difference between starting over at Year 1 at a regional vs. a legacy/major. You just can't look at the hourly payrates, you have to consider other factors as well that can help recuperate previous income (Rigs, per diem, contract, QOL, benefits, company stability/future, etc)

I was in the same boat as BlueMoon. I left Comair for another regional. Sure it sucks starting over, but I figured I could have stayed at Comair for another year, moving backwards on the seniority list with no additional income in sight (lineholder) and then get furloughed this or next year. The paycut would have hurt a lot more after 4/5th year pay than 3rd.

And yes, whoever came up with this 1st year/probation crap needs a kick in the balls.
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Old 01-06-2011 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by CRJDriver
And yes, whoever came up with this 1st year/probation crap needs a kick in the balls.
+1 This made my day
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Old 01-08-2011 | 07:34 AM
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Comair FOs - Anybody get their ATP yet in recurrent?

Just wondering if that program is the real deal or the announcement was just my imagination.
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Old 01-08-2011 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
Comair FOs - Anybody get their ATP yet in recurrent?

Just wondering if that program is the real deal or the announcement was just my imagination.
I'm supposed to start training for the 700/900 later this month. I haven't talked with anyone who has gone through the recurrent/ATP thing yet. Took the ATP written in '08 for an upgrade class that never happened.
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Old 01-08-2011 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by cvg4now
I'm supposed to start training for the 700/900 later this month. I haven't talked with anyone who has gone through the recurrent/ATP thing yet. Took the ATP written in '08 for an upgrade class that never happened.
Did you not have the ATP written when you were hired?
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Old 01-08-2011 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
Did you not have the ATP written when you were hired?
It wasn't required when I was hired in '01.
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Old 01-08-2011 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by cvg4now
It wasn't required when I was hired in '01.
I see. Hope they actually go through with it and type all of you guys. Were you holding out to upgrade?
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Old 01-08-2011 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
I see. Hope they actually go through with it and type all of you guys. Were you holding out to upgrade?
Really had no reason to do the written and by waiting until I had an upgrade class, the company picked up the tab.
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Old 01-08-2011 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cvg4now
Really had no reason to do the written and by waiting until I had an upgrade class, the company picked up the tab.
I was just curious why you didn't upgrade sooner. Weren't the most junior upgrades about that time around 2003 DOH? To each is own I guess. I'm sure you had your reasons for waiting (holding a line, better days off, etc.) With as bad as the industry was getting I just figured people would have upgraded at the soonest possible opportunity.
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