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Old 11-03-2008 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by andy171773
If we're losing more airplanes, comair is offically DONE...

I really want to know what this DS bid is for, cause it's probably going to be my ultimate decision maker on what is going on.

IF, we're getting more planes...great..maybe things will turn around

IF, we're losing more planes...I don' think anyone can deny that Comair's flight operation is finished, or going to be so drastically reduced until the senior folks retire, that it's not worth anyone staying around.
andy, ive got to go with you on this one. it would be great for comair to start getting more airplanes, but i really see this as the final nail in the coffin for me. who knows though, we all dont even know what it is about. looks like we have posting material for 7 days now. i would have to say that we are losing more airplanes, thats what the trend has been in my year and a half here, and i dont see anything different. talk amongst yourselves.
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Old 11-03-2008 | 04:41 PM
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Correct me if I am wrong because it has been along time since we have added airplanes....but don't they only publish "displacement bids" when we are losing aircraft/flying?
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Old 11-03-2008 | 04:51 PM
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Well maybe this has to do with the closing of Concorse C in CVG. And your flying (Furlough Comair pilot, not my flying anymore) will take a hit in the first quarter of 2009 because of it. I can come up with a lot of scenario to make me feel better but the fact is THIS PLACE SUCKS!!!!

Keep us posted on why this bid happens.
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Old 11-03-2008 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by par8head
Correct me if I am wrong because it has been along time since we have added airplanes....but don't they only publish "displacement bids" when we are losing aircraft/flying?
True. We are either losing more flying... or the head counters over in the GO got their head count wrong on the last displacement bid. Lets hope for the latter, but I fear the former. I'm hopefully going to Mesaba later this month... good luck guys. I'm going to miss flying with a lot of the guys at Comair; a great group that I'm sad to see this happen to. We can only hope that things eventually turn around.
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Old 11-03-2008 | 05:24 PM
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My guess:

1. More Captain downgrades (we seem to still be a little "fat" on them--per Comair standards)

2. 70/90 base opening in JFK (or even DTW/MSP for that matter)

Last edited by ComairFO; 11-03-2008 at 05:30 PM. Reason: Forgot to add DTW/MSP
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Old 11-03-2008 | 05:40 PM
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Maestro Is Down..yaaaaay
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Old 11-03-2008 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Diver Driver
True. We are either losing more flying... or the head counters over in the GO got their head count wrong on the last displacement bid. Lets hope for the latter, but I fear the former. I'm hopefully going to Mesaba later this month... good luck guys. I'm going to miss flying with a lot of the guys at Comair; a great group that I'm sad to see this happen to. We can only hope that things eventually turn around.
Goodluck at Mesaba I sent my stuff in bout 2weeks ago and haven't heard anything yet. Gonna be sad to leave if I make a final decision.
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Old 11-03-2008 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CTPILOT
Goodluck at Mesaba I sent my stuff in bout 2weeks ago and haven't heard anything yet. Gonna be sad to leave if I make a final decision.
It took about 3 weeks for them to call me, be patient, you will get the call.
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Old 11-03-2008 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by par8head
Correct me if I am wrong because it has been along time since we have added airplanes....but don't they only publish "displacement bids" when we are losing aircraft/flying?
Last time Comair got planes was Summer 2005... we got a couple 50s back from SKW (I believe they went there during the strike in 2001) and this "growth" tripped our two-year pay freeze. Of course three months later Delta surprisingly "went bankrupt" and the 30+ planes we were promised to bring us to the Contractual 199 Aircraft Fleet just "went away". They did let us keep the pay freeze, though.

Then in Jan 2006 a bunch more went back to lessors. Then more went away with the RFP in 2006-2007. Meanwhile Delta is leasing planes to Freedom and SKW for $1.00 a month.

Then in 2008 we were awarded the Freedom 900s and a week later we weren't. But everyone still remembers that one.

I believe you are correct- a Displacement Bid is downgrades and base reductions and such.

If they were adding 700/900 flying to JFK, or adding a DTW/MEM base it would be a Vacancy Bid.
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Old 11-03-2008 | 06:51 PM
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The displacement bid was my last straw, i'm applying to Mesaba. Enough of this, I really think this airline is going nowhere besides loading the bags and changing the oil in the 50 i'm flying for Mesaba.
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