Well, other management employees have been given the option of some type of exit plan or buy out, heck even the Flight Attendants got that. We have some pilots that have been in management so long I even forgot they were on our seniority list. As Comair continues to shrink and furlough into oblivion, some of these pilots I understand will get a deal from the company. So, if things continue down this path are we supposed to negotiate our own deals with management?

 

Another memo from Glamour Boy....umm: "union...union...Bueller....??"

 

I think that is the nail in the coffin. Comair is done.

 

I don't know if Comair is finished as an airline, nobody really knows what the final post merger outcome will be

 

Why is a "fleet, and staffing update" a nail in the coffin? I agree that things look bad, but look at Midwest. They're furloughing 75% of their pilots. If Delta wanted to get rid of Comair, why didn't they do it during bankruptcy? Comair is valuable to Delta because they can throw us into the Northeast and grow us or shrink us with an instant's notice. Remember a few years ago when Mesaba had 49 Saabs, and no other airplanes? It looked pretty bleak for them too, and they have lots of senior guys just like Comair. But now they seem to be the favorite.

I would agree that Comair is not an attractive place to be a pilot if you're looking for solid career progression, but I'm not so convinced that the big D is going to shut our doors. I think the two airlines that will go will be Freedom and Chatauqua. If you find something better than Comair then by all means take it, but to say they're shutting us down is a little much.

 

Sorry G but I have to disagree. I will give you the fact that my attitude needs to be adjusted. I'm spending too much time on these boards and not enough time doing other things. But I haven't heard one piece of good news that has held up (unless you count the initial 900's) since coming here. But every piece of bad news has only been magnified. We are clearly not going to be Big D's goto partner in the future. Do you every hear Richard or Ed speak of Comair unless prompted?

Big D might not being closing our doors all together, but we are closing Concourse C. We have furloughed 206 pilots. We are downgrading 149 captains. We will downgrade and furlough more. And we still will be one of the most expensive pilot groups in the industry.

 

More furloughs just announced. Check your ALPA email.

Comtanic.....

 

I just got a warm fuzzy feeling in my mailbox:

Fellow Pilots:

It is with great disappointment that I must announce the recent news that I’ve learned. According to company officials, Comair will be furloughing more than the 206 brothers and sisters who have been placed on furlough as of today. While no satisfactory explanation has been offered for these furloughs, the company has shared that Comair will not be taking possession of its 14th CRJ-900 aircraft, as originally planned...
Mark Cirksena
CMR MEC Chair

 

The comparison between Mesaba and Comair post Ch11 is rather interesting. It makes you wonder why DL didn't beat Comair with the bat harder during CH11. Had they been as heavy handed with Comair as NWA was with Mesaba the whole picture could be very different.

Pre Ch11 both Comair and Mesaba were "expensive" feeders. During Ch11 Mesaba was gutted and Comair kicked around. Post Ch11 Mesaba is recouping their losses and "growing" back to pre Ch11 size. Post Ch11 Comair continues to shrink.

 

Have to agree we are so done. Good post Chow.