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Old 01-01-2006 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by captain_drew
If individuals do not believe they are at least as good, if not better than the highest paid of professions, then I guess they don’t deserve the big bucks. When I look at my productivity for my employer, the physically detrimental back side of the clock flying the job required, my loyalty and pride in getting the boxes where they were going in a safe and expeditions manner, I KNOW I was worth $250,000+ per year. Didn’t get paid that much, but I was certainly worth it. The folks still flying today are worth it too, they just have to figure out how to negotiate that.
1. You don't get what your worth, you get what you negotiate.
2. If any Jet Blue guys are lurking on this thread, re-read 1.
Old 01-01-2006 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by preludespeeder

What is your beef with the left side of politics, you keep talking about it but with no actual reason for your hate for them. You just rant about how they are bringing down the values of America. What values are they bringing down? What are they doing to this country that is so bad?
Oh Man !! !@!

You are kidding, right? You live in a bubble?

I suppose you espouse the values of Michael Moore? Barbara Striesand? Susan Sarrandon? Cindy Sheehan? George Soros?

You would have commuted the sentence of Tookie Williams? OR release the PHL cop killer, Mumar?

They want to tear down a Korean War Veterans memorial in SAN -because it has a Cross incorporated in it. They are suing all over the place about the 10 Commandments.

They took prayer out of school back in the 60’s . . want to make the Pledge of Alligence unconstitutional because it contains “under God”.

They run around spouting intellectually dishonest “Separation of Church and State” nonsense, when THAT is NOT in the Constitution. The First Amendment is QUITE clear, but they don’t like the way it is written, so they want activist judges to change history -and our way of life.

They want to take away our 2nd Amendment Rights!

They want to make Gay Marraige OK!

They want to remove ALL reference to the Christian religion from the public venue! War on Christmas just concluded for this year. You CAN’T be serious in asking those questions!

The Government Public Schools are a DISASTER for our society. Condoms in public schools? Evolution is just a theory as some people regard Creationism. What’s the problem with teaching them, side by side, as ‘theories’. The Left required 7th Graders in CA to “become Muslim” for a several week course. BUT they won’t allow the football team to say a prayer before a game or the Validictorian to invoke Jesus’ name in a graduation speech.

Military Christian Chaplins are ordered NOT to say Jesus’ name in their prayers! But Muslim Chaplins are “Allah” all day long?

Listen to Rush and Sean -or your local Talk Show Host for a couple of weeks with an open mind.

Do some reading.

Bernard Goldberg -Arrogance / 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America
Ann Coulter -Treason -or any of her other works
Michelle Malkin
Dick Morris
Go here for a more in depth reading list: (http://www.conservativebookclub.com/DefaultJoin.asp)

Originally Posted by preludespeeder
In my opinion the problem is it is too one sided to the right. I am independent also but I have more hate for the right then the left. They are rapping every person in this country except for the richest 1% and then try to cover it with moral values.
Why hate the Right? They are not trying to destroy the country as we know it.

You are misguided and guilty of class envy. That is a Socialist talking point. The Income Tax is immoral (and probably un- Constitutional) on the face of it. The richest 2-3% already pay upwards of 65-70% of all the taxes and you think it is morally right to take more? Even if our tax monies were spent wisely and properly I would object to that. We need to move to a ‘consumption’ based tax system, so the folks who ‘consume’ more, pay a bigger share of the burden.

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I give it ten or so years and the US will be bankrupt and back to the 1800's way of life.
Nonsense. On what basis do you make that claim?
Old 01-01-2006 | 11:59 AM
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On Unions we are on the same page, on politics's.......well, let's get lickered up than we'll talk


Originally Posted by captain_drew
MY involvement is to simply show displeasure at the way the industry is going and I agree with KB that aspiring pilots, who will do anything, even if it means hurting the industry, ARE part of the problem.
Here I think your showing your age and, frankly, a lack of positional awareness regarding the reality of braking into aviation in the 21st century. I wish, as I sure every aspiring pilot also wished, that no one could buy there way into this career. You as a navy guy had your training bought for you (and before you tear off on a rant about serving your country and landing on pitching decks..... we all respect your sacrifice in serving your country so save that one for some other disrespecting, un American, non Republican. Others paid to fly, some more than others, and yes, the lower end of the airline industry has found that some pilots will pay to get a crappy job, getting payed peanuts, in the hope, that they can, some day own a......

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The fault lies not with younger pilots grubbling and lowering the bar as much as, employed pilots not demanding (thought a collective resolve) to set pay and QOL standards for all pilots, new hire as well as senior. If more pilots groups would have the same ca-hones as the ComAir bunch, than starting FO pay wouldn't be $19 an hour and topping out at less than $50, as it does with some regionals. This is the problem, not the people looking skyward. Put the blame where it lies, not on its victims.
Old 01-01-2006 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dckozak
let's get lickered up than we'll talk
As always, I will buy the 1st round -or three . .please tell me . . that guy who said the “F-Street” was now a “Gay Bar” was only jesting . .wasn’t he? I don’t believe “The Bush Company” is a good place to meet babes, cuz what babe in her right mind wants to go to a place where half neked ‘professionals’ are selling it?


Originally Posted by dckozak
Here I think your showing your age and, frankly, a lack of positional awareness
Everyone knows how important positional awareness IS! Hold on while I realign the INS <G>
Old 01-01-2006 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by captain_drew
As always, I will buy the 1st round -or three . .please tell me . . that guy who said the “F-Street” was now a “Gay Bar” was only jesting . .wasn’t he? I don’t believe “The Bush Company” is a good place to meet babes, cuz what babe in her right mind wants to go to a place where half neked ‘professionals’ are selling it?
Yea BS on the F Street "Gay Bar" thing. They do now hire "non-blonds" , gotta couple brunets, but they all look good. The food has gone down hill a bit (IMHO).
I haven't been to the Bush company in years, only place I was ever thrown out of, don't know why either... thought I was being a good boy

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Old 01-01-2006 | 02:10 PM
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I take it these are 'gentleman's clubs' in Alaska?

The use of the term 'gentleman' in no way implies one is present...:-)

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Old 01-01-2006 | 02:17 PM
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The fault lies not with younger pilots grubbling and lowering the bar as much as, employed pilots not demanding (thought a collective resolve) to set pay and QOL standards for all pilots, new hire as well as senior. If more pilots groups would have the same ca-hones as the ComAir bunch, than starting FO pay wouldn't be $19 an hour and topping out at less than $50, as it does with some regionals. This is the problem, not the people looking skyward. Put the blame where it lies, not on its victims.[/QUOTE]

I couldn't have said it better myself!
Old 01-01-2006 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dckozak
Yea BS on the F Street "Gay Bar" thing. They do now hire "non-blonds" , gotta couple brunets, but they all look good. The food has gone down hill a bit (IMHO).
I haven't been to the Bush company in years, only place I was ever thrown out of, don't know why either... thought I was being a good boy
You are SUPPOSED to ‘pay’ for lap dances . .that’s why! They weren’t rubbing up against your freight puke torso of their own personal pleasure.

I have nothing against brunettes. I thought it was a nice crowd that hung out there. And as long as they don’t 86 the Calamari and cheeseburgers. . I don't care what they do with the food.

You ever get out the a place down the sound . . think it was called Ptarmigen something?

And to answer LA’s question, I guess you could consider Bush Co a ‘gentleman’s’ club . . although it attracted Marines too. “F-Street” is just a nice little ‘neighborhood’ bar in ANC, where the neighborhood draws from International travelers. Right next door to the layover hotel (Hilton -if I recall) which made it VERY convenient to get all likkered up and still be able to find your way home . . and VERY disconcerting to be standing there, looking out the window at 0300 and it is still broad daylight.

Ah. . yes . .good memories. I remember rolling out of there and running into a bunch of Tiger guys and having them ask us how was Fred Smith to work for, as the acquisition had JUST been announced. Thought they were joking around. Sure made for a L-O-N-G flight back to CONUS that trip!!
Old 01-01-2006 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by captain_drew
You are SUPPOSED to ‘pay’ for lap dances . .that’s why! They weren’t rubbing up against your freight puke torso of their own personal pleasure.
Can't say I'v ever had a lap dance in ANC, Bush orm otherwise, now Memphis, well............

[/QUOTE=captain_drew] I have nothing against brunettes. I thought it was a nice crowd that hung out there. And as long as they don’t 86 the Calamari and cheeseburgers. . I don't care what they do with the food.

You ever get out the a place down the sound . . think it was called Ptarmigen something? [/Quote]

Don't know this one. There are several dives in downtown ANC, Darwin's Theory comes to mind.



[/Quote] Ah. . yes . .good memories. I remember rolling out of there and running into a bunch of Tiger guys and having them ask us how was Fred Smith to work for, as the acquisition had JUST been announced. Thought they were joking around. Sure made for a L-O-N-G flight back to CONUS that trip!![/QUOTE]

Tiger Guy's........ all those East coast liberals
Old 01-01-2006 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Joeshmoe
Now all of the sudden someone wants to talk about "not a fact to be found". Now that is a good one. Exactly where in my last post did I accuse you or anyone else for being responsible for PFT?
in your post, you said, "Funny how Cpt Drew and KB talk about you reap what you sow.........so I guess in my humble opinion your crying constantly about pilot salaries and PFT and the like is your own darn fault."

now, i admit that this barely literate rant is not very clear. i read it as you accusing me and drew of being responsible for PFT. if your poor spelling, mangled grammar, and off-the-chart punctuation got in the way of some intelligent argument, i apologize for the misunderstanding.
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