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Bscalis 09-18-2012 10:48 AM

Capt Tony or anyone else who also has any information.

I am finding myself in a predicament with my current time and all of the airlines that I have researched continually upping their minimums. I have my resume on many sites including airlineapps.com and personally spoke to expressjet. I do not meet there minimums yet and they are raising them every month.

I currently have
1014 TT
239 ME
961 PIC
167 Instrument
144 Night
21.8 Turbine PIC

With these hours if anyone else has an idea of where to apply and be able to get hired I would be extremely grateful for the information.

But for everyone to be harping on the pay constantly is getting old. Please lets keep this forum informative and helpful to pilots not a place to complain.

Personally I have my phone in hand waiting for the phone call and will be thrilled to get it. I am Veteran of the US Army hold a Bachelors Degree and Master Degree, and a current Commercial Multi Engine Instrument Pilot.

But in this economy it is very difficult to find any job as I have been unemployed since May. For everyone complaining about pay be thankful that you have a job it can always be worse and many people are experiencing worse. I will be thankful for my new job and will look forward to upgrading quickly if it is with Great Lakes. If it is not I will also be just as thankful or any other opportunities that come up.

But as a closure; If anyone does know of any positions for me to apply to that I am qualified for, I would be very grateful.

AtlCSIP 09-18-2012 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1262884)
I say this as a GLA alum. Why would you go to Lakes right now? We are on the verge of a massive hiring boom, where companies like SkyWest, ExpressJet, and Republic will have massive hiring due to attrition, and dropping upgrade times. Why go to Lakes and endure their low pay and non-existent QOL when you could come to a premier regional and have the same end result in the same time frame? Serious question.

Most other places require more total time than what he/she currently has.

AtlCSIP 09-18-2012 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by troyb (Post 1262911)
You must not realize that some of those places you mentioned and others (Jetblue, Spirit, Airways, Virgin, etc.) have recently hired RJ FO's with 0 turbine PIC time. No upgrade is required!

1000 hours PIC in a 1900 is better than 3000 hours SIC in an RJ, no matter where it came from. It is true that those other places will hire without turbine PIC, but should someone experience furlough at some point in his/her career, that 1000 hours PIC in the 1900 will get you hired somewhere else much more quickly.

My .02

ATL

FDX8891 09-18-2012 11:31 AM

If it's so easy to just "get your time and get out" why isn't everyone doing it? There are no shortcuts in this career and anyone who thinks they're taking one by going to a crappy operator like Lakes better think twice if they want to actually support themselves. I had a friend who tried to convince me to go there while I was instructing. I refused to go due to their insulting pay and QOL. What's funny now is about a year later, I'm trying to help my buddy get on at ExpressJet because he was going crazy there, and what's even more funny are those who think that once they get their magical 1000 TPIC that Delta, UPS, SWA and FedEx will come bursting through their front door wanting to hire them. Going to a place like Lakes or Silver to just get the time and move on sounds much better in theory than it is in real life. Sure, the gamble works out for some, but for most it doesn't.

Systemized 09-18-2012 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 1262972)
1000 hours PIC in a 1900 is better than 3000 hours SIC in an RJ, no matter where it came from. It is true that those other places will hire without turbine PIC, but should someone experience furlough at some point in his/her career, that 1000 hours PIC in the 1900 will get you hired somewhere else much more quickly.

My .02

ATL

I don't think you can argue 1000 hours PIC in a 1900 is better than 3000 hours SIC in an RJ or vise versa without looking into specifics regarding individual companies.

AtlCSIP 09-18-2012 12:37 PM

Sure you can. I just did. It was My .02, not a fact, remember.

Bscalis 09-18-2012 01:05 PM

Interviews
 
Did anyone else interview on Sept 14th?

If so has anyone received a phone call or email?

troyb 09-18-2012 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by AtlCSIP (Post 1262972)
1000 hours PIC in a 1900 is better than 3000 hours SIC in an RJ, no matter where it came from. It is true that those other places will hire without turbine PIC, but should someone experience furlough at some point in his/her career, that 1000 hours PIC in the 1900 will get you hired somewhere else much more quickly.

My .02

ATL

Do some of the majors still have the 20,000 lb min weight requirement for TPIC or has that been dropped? What about the RJ FO's getting a PIC type but not upgrading (for HR 5900) on the same plane that some majors operate (170/190)? Would 1900 PIC time still be better?

AtlCSIP 09-18-2012 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by troyb (Post 1263047)
Do some of the majors still have the 20,000 lb min weight requirement for TPIC or has that been dropped? What about the RJ FO's getting a PIC type but not upgrading (for HR 5900) on the same plane that some majors operate (170/190)? Would 1900 PIC time still be better?

I don't know about the 20,000 lb weight requirement, but I think 1900 PIC time is still better.

JamesNoBrakes 09-18-2012 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by FDX8891 (Post 1262979)
Sure, the gamble works out for some, but for most it doesn't.

Great words.


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