You XJT flamers make me laugh! What hypocrites! LOL!

 

Honest question, no flame.

How are they hypocrites?

 

Im confused?????

 

Thanks for making it very clear to me why you vote down ALPA and think your management is ****. No problem though, we'll keep paying our Union dues so you can have your management semi-match what we have.

 

Skywest Rules!!!

 

Guys this isn’t hard, just because XJT has a good contract and their represented doesn’t mean their not being hypocrites when they come on here and tell us we’re think about us and only us. Life at its most basic element is personally driven. You guys are on here bashing us for voting on what we feel is best for us and our future but in the end that’s what we all do and that's why I said "what hypocrites." Spin it how you will, that you’re always think about the industry but that’s just flaming. You believe whatever helps you sleep at night and we’ll do the same but get over it.

Yes this pay proposal is weak but when you sit down and calculate all of our bonuses and not having to pay 1.95% (yes it's deductible so enjoy your $100 at the end of the year) this proposal ends up being ASA plus 4-12% dependent on you year and seat. But because we have a lot of soft pay you guys don’t see it and you continue to wine and moan.

I voted YES for ALPA, as did many of my brethren, because I thought that it was best for me and my future. Others felt different, hey that’s they’re opinion and now I’m forced to deal with my groups decision but don’t bash us for making our decisions based upon what right for us, our futures and our company. You guys do the exact same.

I'm not making excuses for my brethren voting down ALPA but even though I disagree I still respect them and I always well, just as I respect all of you. BTW, stop assuming that because the ALPA drive failed that we all voted no.

 

Fine now get over it.

 

Last time I checked Skyway has ALPA and how much has ALPA helped them now. One of the most stressful things in a person's life is finding a new job. So I guess the good thing to do if you are a Skyway guy is not apply at Skywest since we do not have ALPA representation. We can't protect you at Skywest like ALPA protected you at Skyway with your job. Last time I checked Comair has ALPA as well, and last time I checked in March they took a major pay reduction. Skywest is at least getting a pay increase and I can guarantee they will never go out of business and will never furlough anyone. I welcome all Skyway guys to apply and get a job at Skywest and you can see firsthand what a good company is and how you will be treated here.

 

Total Garbage, it sure happened at my last ALPA carrier, much worse than at SKW.

MEC's are always old guys (just like SAPA) and tend to be biased towards the old-guy point-of-view. Just human nature in action, not unique to SAPA or ALPA.

This is particularly true at the regionals, where the FO's are young, inexperienced, and mostly worried about their iPod and getting laid on Friday.

ALPA is not a magical, mythical, holy institution. It's just an organization, subject to all of the usual failings of human endevours everywhere. It has an advantage in collective bargaining, but that's about it.

Let's summarize...you say ALPA does NOT bias towards the old guys: Two words for you pal...

1) Prater
2) Age 65

Q.E.D

 

This is why, if for no other reason, 100% of SKW pilots should vote against the new payscale. Even if management implements it anyway, at least it will show solid unity amongst the pilot group.
Oh wait, there is no unity - and I'm not talking about just at SKW. I see it at every airline, and management loves it. Here at RAH, some pilot groups were offered a pay override for overtime, and nobody else was. AT SKW, 120 pilots don't get pay raises while the jet pilots do. I'm sure you can all find some example of it at your company. For being a bunch of unionized employees, we sure don't act like it.