SKYW: Pay Proposal -- Voted NO today.
#52
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From: Former EMB 120 Jr. Water Boy, CRJ newbee
The only two SKW pilots on here that said they're going to vote YES are Slap and TW. Where as I believe; Bla, ANP, Rick, JJ (myself), Seatown, EngOut, KingAir, CopCar, FlyingHunter, ExpAB, SharkAir, Seatle, otter, wafly, duvie, ficone, reelbig and a few others a all voting NO on this BS pay package.
#53
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From: EMB 145 CPT
Let's assume that your assertion is true (that lower productivity = better QOL). I think JetJock might be saying that because we are more "productive," (meaning we perform at a higher level according to some metric) we expect (dare I say.... deserve) more compensation. A tradeoff of sorts, perhaps.
But I haven't heard too many complaints on QOL at Skywest, except maybe from folks on reserve (such as myself).
But I haven't heard too many complaints on QOL at Skywest, except maybe from folks on reserve (such as myself).
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I wasn't. I was saying I'd just rather you delete them then be forced into a debate over something which never should have started in the first place. If I said the sky were blue and someone else said it were green, I'd rather say "fine then it's green" and get back on topic then watch 5 pages of debate on something that obviously isn't going anywhere when we all already know the darn sky is blue.
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9E boys ( if released for self help ) and they get nothing worthwhile out of mgt had better strike.......
I have been part of a pilot group.... Flagship (Nashville) Eagle when when they were still part of APA.... just like 9E we had a strike vote of 99%......but at the last minute the "leaders" decided not to vote and to present the companies last pathetic offer to the membership. In th end we ended up with some pathetic pay raises and not much else and the company knew they had crushed the spirit and resolve of the pilot group for awhile......
Unity and the resolve to use that unity is all that mgt will ever understand. How you get it is up to you, but without it you are at the companies mercy.
I have been part of a pilot group.... Flagship (Nashville) Eagle when when they were still part of APA.... just like 9E we had a strike vote of 99%......but at the last minute the "leaders" decided not to vote and to present the companies last pathetic offer to the membership. In th end we ended up with some pathetic pay raises and not much else and the company knew they had crushed the spirit and resolve of the pilot group for awhile......
Unity and the resolve to use that unity is all that mgt will ever understand. How you get it is up to you, but without it you are at the companies mercy.
#57
"If Pinnacle is in their cooling off period, that is HUGE news that I haven't heard."
Yeah, that's the part that his thesarus missed. They must not have an aviation version of that thing....
Yeah, that's the part that his thesarus missed. They must not have an aviation version of that thing....
#58
Per the terms of Section 6 of the Railway Labor Act, which governs airline employee labor negotiations, the NMB can extend to the parties a proffer to arbitrate any remaining issues. If either party declines the proffer, the parties are released from mediation, and a 30-day cooling-off period begins. At its conclusion, either party can engage in self-help, which could take the form of a strike by employees.
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That one is just my guess.
From what I've heard/read Pinnacle made "their best deal" and the pilots turned it down. The company has sense sat there doing nothing. The pilot group has sense voted for and approved a strike by an overwhelming amount. Are they not in their "cooling-off" period yet? There was talk awhile back about it before the vote. Looking at the relation of things it seems a strike comes after the period. The strike has already been voted on by the pilots. Maybe they voted prior to the mediation. Any PNCL guys here to shed light?
From what I've heard/read Pinnacle made "their best deal" and the pilots turned it down. The company has sense sat there doing nothing. The pilot group has sense voted for and approved a strike by an overwhelming amount. Are they not in their "cooling-off" period yet? There was talk awhile back about it before the vote. Looking at the relation of things it seems a strike comes after the period. The strike has already been voted on by the pilots. Maybe they voted prior to the mediation. Any PNCL guys here to shed light?
#60
Or a spell checker. Thesaurus. Nice shot at sarcasm though. Always a nice last quick jab. What do you want? Want me to recant my statement that PNCL pilots didn't get approved to strike? Ok I will. Don't know why that will make you and Tony so happy but I'll do it if that's what you really want. I don't understand where you were coming from in the first place nor where you are trying to go with it. Maybe because both of you thought you'd talk down a little, be a little sarcastic and quick whitted, only later to find that I was correct and now the ego hurts. Lets just continue with the cheap jabs now, searching each post with a fine tooth comb looking for anything that can me misconstrued! This is exactly what I was trying to avoid by getting this topic back on track. Guess you won't let it go so I will. Off to a new topic.
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