Are F/Os really scum?
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Just guessing. Maybe he had some resentment that you are flying a "12 first class pax, 64 coach pax airliner" for a fraction of the pay, and a job that should be at mainline?
At least the captain is compensated so he can pay the bills, but I can understand why any mainline pilot would have resentment towards any FO flying 70-90 pax around for crapbag wages. That's chipping away at his profession.
Not flamebait at all, but you don't think you're better in your 76 seat CRJ 900 with first class than if you were a 50 seat FO for the same rates do you? Sure hope not.
At least the captain is compensated so he can pay the bills, but I can understand why any mainline pilot would have resentment towards any FO flying 70-90 pax around for crapbag wages. That's chipping away at his profession.
Not flamebait at all, but you don't think you're better in your 76 seat CRJ 900 with first class than if you were a 50 seat FO for the same rates do you? Sure hope not.
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I know of a Shuttle CKA who disallowed a mainline CA EXACTLY for that... he did not and sort of even rebuffed the FO.... CA told him to get his things and exit the aircraft so they could close the door........
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Had a bit of a rude encounter yesterday. Flew a flight yesterday that had 12 first class pax, 64 coach pax, and a jumpseater. Jumpseater was a DL 737 capt based in ATL. He walks up to the cockpit, introduces himself to the capt, shows his credentials, etc. During the 2+hour flight, capt and j/s chat back and forth about some stuff they had in common. So I took the radios so they could chat undisturbed (it was my leg to fly). We land, taxi in, and start deplaning. J/S thanks the capt for the ride, shakes his hand, gathers his bags and leaves. He didn't say one word to me the entire time. Didn't look at me. Didn't acknowledge my existence.
My question is, isn't it professional courtesy to thank the crew, etc. for giving you a ride to work for free, especially in the jumpseat? As an f/o, am I really pond scum?
My question is, isn't it professional courtesy to thank the crew, etc. for giving you a ride to work for free, especially in the jumpseat? As an f/o, am I really pond scum?
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Besides, their own scope clause prohibits them from flying this guage of aircraft anyway. But that is for another thread.
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Just guessing. Maybe he had some resentment that you are flying a "12 first class pax, 64 coach pax airliner" for a fraction of the pay, and a job that should be at mainline?
At least the captain is compensated so he can pay the bills, but I can understand why any mainline pilot would have resentment towards any FO flying 70-90 pax around for crapbag wages.
Not flamebait at all, but you don't think you're better in your 76 seat CRJ 900 with first class than if you were a 50 seat FO for the same rates do you? Sure hope not.
At least the captain is compensated so he can pay the bills, but I can understand why any mainline pilot would have resentment towards any FO flying 70-90 pax around for crapbag wages.
That's chipping away at his profession.
That's chipping away at his profession.
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It is in everyones best interest, but they gave up more scope in bankruptcy with pilots on furlough...so much for not throwing your own under the bus.
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Whenever I jumpseat (which was a lot) I go out of my way to say hi to the FO and shake his hand. Mainly because I know I like anyone JSing when I'm the FO to say hi...but it's no biggie. I had a pretty senior DAL guy sitting in the jumpseat a few months ago (somewhere in the low 60's on their seniority list) and he was awesome. Chatted with me and the CA the whole time (out of sterile cockpit of course) and was very friendly despite being crammed in the 145 jumpseat. Just depends on who ya get I guess.
At the same time, I have seen a DAL guy exhibit a lot of animosity towards a CMR guy when me and a CMR CA were both trying to jumpseat. It's none of my business so I stayed out of it. Long story short, the DAL CA tried to put me in the JS before the CMR guy (even though they have priority) since I was there first. In the end, we both got seats in the back thanks to misconnects but it was definately a little uncomfortable at the gate.
At the same time, I have seen a DAL guy exhibit a lot of animosity towards a CMR guy when me and a CMR CA were both trying to jumpseat. It's none of my business so I stayed out of it. Long story short, the DAL CA tried to put me in the JS before the CMR guy (even though they have priority) since I was there first. In the end, we both got seats in the back thanks to misconnects but it was definately a little uncomfortable at the gate.
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