So long as your family understand that they are subsidizing your love of flying by putting up with you being gone all the time, and having nothing to show for it, then go for it.

 

Excuse me, if you think Regional Capt pay isn't still low pay for the education/training level as well as the liablity exposure level, then you haven't been paying attention... and have learned little the past 2.5 years in the non flying airline job. Pilot pay, at all levels, is grossly underpaid for the actual time invested. A mainline guy showing up for even $200 per hour, but having 4 hours of ground time in a ten hour duty day means his actual hourly pay is $120.00 A regional Capt showing up for 100 and hour and being paid for 7 hours on a 14 hour duty day works out to $50 per hour. These are hardly professional wages, and those are the TOP income earners. They are above average, but they certainly far far short of being comparable to other professions with similar education/training levels.


So, what is the point of this statement?

Oh, your one of those.... people why will live with crappy pay and wages (hey it's only the begining right) becuase I'll be at that major job in a few years... right...

Have you been paying attention the last 2.5 years at your non flying airline job? The majors/legacy's are shrinking at an increasing rate, in at least one case and ENTIRE mainline pilot group was replaced by regional crap... there will be no mainline good jobs to go to so lang as people keep accepting crappy regional jobs for zero money, and zero QOL because they think that this is a great stepping stone job to go to a major...

True about finding what makes you happy, the rest of your line of thought is jibberish.

 

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They should register that domain to point to this thread...

 

^^^^^ somebody sees the glass half-empty

 

Average 1st year pay for an MD is also failry pathetic.... typically around 40k while doing their residency. It also means very long shifts.... but it also means the Hospital provides them with a place to sleep and stay.

Average 1st year lawyer pay is harder to guage since it can vary widely from one region of the contry to another. The average works out to between 36k and 45k first year.

From there, their pay goes up exponentially each and every year. If they move or switch to another employer they do NOT go back to first year pay and work rules.

That being said. A good plumber will make that kind of money easilly. There are a number of good professions, and many many trades that will start at much higher pay than pilot pay.

The point being that if you think pilot pay is good then you are not very familiar with current payscales in other trades and professions

 

I'm sure Doctors and Lawyers love their jobs just as much, yet they don't offer to go fly for free, or for chump change just because they love doing that type of work.

Welcome aboard. Just do not be another person who is willing to work for peanuts because they "love" to fly.

VLJ's? The Eclipse is in trouble, can't produce a quality product, are looking to move their factory out of the US to try and save worker expenses.... Cessna Mustang has been around a while now, DayJet has come and gone... the myth of a VLJ in every garage made great press and sold lots of magazines, but the reality is it just is not happening the way they "hoped."

What's wrong with picking up your CFI, and teaching others? You have an honest love of flying, why not share that with others? Some of those rich folks you talked about will be needing good qualified instructors. It will let you spend far more time with your family than going to work 135 or 121. Get a job as a plumber or mason and you'll make as much if not more than the typical 135/121 pilot. Better yet, become a lawyer or Doctor and you can buy your own plane and keep flying for fun....

 

For me working in IT it went like this:

Year 1: 24,000/yr
Year 2: 24,000/yr
Year 2.5: 28,000/yr
Year 3 (New Job): 38,500
Year 4: 43,500

Year 5 won't bring anymore raises... the execs still get their bonuses tho... (The economy is the excuse, our stock dropped to 4 something a share down from 30 earlier this year...)

And I was FORCED to leave that job at yr 2 because they were gonna lay me off anyway...

And in my current place, no room to move up, becuase everyone higher than me has been here for more than 8 yrs, and they aren't going anywhere... So my pay will top out just about where it is now, unless I quit and find another job yet again...


Basically if I stayed in IT for 10+ years, I'd only be up to somewhere around 50 to 55 grand (In todays money)... If I'm lucky...

 

Please tell us where all the other new hires, or people with less than 10 years in the profession are hanging out so we can know where not to go... wouldn't want to step in any of the spew being left on the floor by all you young guys so excited and still suffering from SJS.

 

Did you check to see what these people earn and what their lifestyle is before becomming one?

 

And I DO plan on CFI'ing... I definitely want to for at least a while to be fresh on the materials and skills... I got my whole life to fly a jet on autopilot, so I'd love to get the Cessna time as well as share the dream with other fellow curious humans...

And I have no interest in being a doctor or lawyer... I don't wanna be a glorified paper pusher / word manipulator... And I wouldn't want to be a doctor becuase well I'm just not interested in 10 years of school or that line of work... i don't like looking at the same walls all of the time either... Not to mention I'd like to actually see outside when the SUN is still out... instead of going to work when its dark, and leaving when its dark...

And don't worry, I won't work for peanuts... I'll make sure I take the right job for reasonable pay when the time comes... I won't go for the bottom feeders...