The intelligent choice is to stay. As much I would like to leave, it would not be a good decision to do so. This industry is different. You cannot just quit and go somewhere else and make the same or more amount of $$$$. Lateral moves are financial suicide.

#1. I'd take a pay cut.
#2. I'd be on reserve
#3. I'd be at the bottom of another list ( Very bad year to be at the bottom of a list)
#4. Close to upgrade here.

With all that being said, If I knew how this company treated its employees before I got hired here, I would have went somewhere else.

I'm here trying to save people the pain and suffering they will endure from this company.

There is not one thing good about this company. Can you name one good thing about this company or how they treat you? Don't tell me your 17 days days off (which you embellish upon) so I don't have to deal with them bah bah bah. Name something positive the company has done for you.

 

they didn't give me any crap when i took fmla to be at home when my son was born for nearly 2 months.

i have never been extended

i have never been junior manned

they pay me on the 1st and on the 16th, the check has never bounced.

i have great medical coverage for only 150 bucks a month

when i had a death in the family they dropped my 3 day trip and asked if i needed any more time off.

see the thing is spooled if you are a trouble maker here then they know who you are. if you dont call in sick all the time, abuse the commuter policy, etc etc then you get treated fairly. i have never been mistreated here, out side the contract limits. It is not their fault that we signed the contract allowing them to do some of the stuff they are able to do, hence the reason that in some of the sections of the new contract just a few words were changed to clarify some things. like i said in an earlier post, i wanted to drop a trip so i could go on a longer vacation with the family, i found someone who wanted it, went to the base manager and told her and she said it was fine. i am sure if she would have pulled my stuff up and seen mt's, tons of sick calls, etc she wouldn't be so willing to work with me.

 

Ummm..No..Please check again... its 12 days off. Then goes to 10, then varies a bunch. Same with DTW and same with Minne.

I'd do the math to prove to you that the average day off for ALL Pilots is far less than 15 days off. But frankly its not worth my time or effort. Either is posting here, but i get a kick out of getting you and Higney riled up.

 

hahaha, whats funny is its just the opposite. higney and i keep level headed, while you are riled up. but its funny that you think we actually care about how much you hate this place. sorry your life sucks more than mine i guess?

and you are right i was looking at line holder 152 out of 156 that got 14 days off. i can tell you he is just a little senior to me, so he has probably been here around 3 years and has a pretty good schedule.

so on the last page of the line holders you have 11-14 days off.
next to last you have 10-15
then the next page 10-16
then the next page has 13-17

these are the LAST 4 PAGES OF LINE HOLDERS IN MEM. there are 11 more pages till you reach the top of the list.

over 41 pilots in mem have over 18 days off.

 

Medical coverage is the one thing i'll give you. But there are some draw backs to it. As someone else mentioned they have certain limits for certain things.

Can't fly when your sick. Six sick days a year policy is a joke and you know it. Then they pressure you to go on FLMA, so they don't have to pay you sick time.

 

Please explain how I embellish 17 days off? I currently don't bid for max days off so I avoid 4 day trips. Months ago I was holding 16-18 days off with weekends but I had 4 day trips. I still hold 16-18. Go ahead and look. Look at those in my class in both MEM and DTW. I ran into one just a couple days ago with 20 off and not on vacation. Others here in MEM have been holding 16-18, those who bid weekends got those too. I hold 3 on and at least 3 off and get exactly what I ask for. I am 27/7 most of the month which makes very little room for scheduling to possibly do anything to me, especially when all my trips end on 5 leg days.

I don't know the name behind the username and I don't care. I just find it difficult to constantly read you bash every pilot you work with and everyone who asks a question about PNCL. I am not defending the company and I am not trying to attack you personally- I am just trying to figure out why you seem so hostile towards everyone on this board whenever you see pinnacle in a thread. I support your cause of stopping people from coming here, but currently you only reach a few via a message board and attacking fellow co-workers does not help credibility. Using facts works pretty well at getting a point across.

-Attrition, up to a month ago we were losing pilots faster than we could attract and retain.

-Pay, worst across the board. You can make more flying tprops.

-Work Rules, commonly abused and misinterpreted and are not good to begin with.

-Management, mismanagement.

I am not trying to start anything with you spooled, just trying to figure out why you sound so bitter with a company that hired you, trained you (or better yet trained you then hired you) and pays you to fly a jet a build your resume to move on. That is why you came here and that is why you are staying.

 

Not sure how living in MEM could ever be considered a 'good life'.

There must be reason 200k will get you a 5000 sq ft house in MEM.

Everyone has different standards of living. Same applies to standards of how a company treats its employees. Its all relative.

 

almost every airline does sort of threating. did you not read the ntsb report on the shuttle america plane that ran off the runway in cle? just a few weeks before the incident the company sent out a memo threating everyone if they called in sick or fatigued. the captain even said he was scared to lose his job and that is why he didn't call in fatigued. like i said earlier i have used more than 6 sick days and i haven't heard a peep out of base ops. i called in sick for a 4 day once, and a 3 day about 6 months later. they probably looked and saw that i only have 3 sick calls in over 2 and a half years, no mt's, and no other problems. so the have left me alone.

squicky wheels dont always get the oil, sometimes they get removed.

 

I don't bash Pinnacle pilots. I think Pinnacle has a GREAT pilot group. BTW We had an all female crew today. It was quite fun!!

I speak the truth my brotha/sista.

I'm done here..Things are going south fast. I need my beauty sleep

 

hahaha 200K,, that is WAY over priced! it better come fully loaded with the escalade in the garage!