Well, I for one am hoping that it all remains with XJT. I know that gaining more flying would improve my QOL but I already have it pretty good and am willing to forgo in order to see your pilot group maintain.

Yes, they have said that the most competitive airline will receive any new flying SKW Inc receives. If XJT joined the group then you can bet all your marbles that Uncle Jerry and friends will whipsaw the hell out of us. You can also bet that none of us will be the highest paid and none of us will be setting the bar but we all will be competitively paid and near the top in total compensation (just look at ASA and SKW current pay, QOL, Rigs and bonuses). I firmly believe that all three airlines will have solid futures and I personally don’t think there is a better Regional Airline Mgmnt team in the nation and for that matter in the history of code share agreements; call it Kool-Aid if you want, it’s just my professional opinion.

BTW, I'm not saying this is a good thing but it's most definitely not a bad thing either.

 

Fair enough but when you consider that part of their pitch included the cost savings from synergies and the economies of scales that would come from a mega regional, there is no need to set up the whipsaw. If SKW management was no longer so anti union, this transaction could be the best deal for all three pilot groups and management. But if they are successful in setting up what they want to set up, it only antagonizes the pilots and doesn't set up a harmoniousness relationship like the one that XJT has with its management and has produced the best metrics in the industry.

But you are right, its just reality. But its only reality because the anti union SKW management holds the cards.

 

True, they hold all the cards and seeing that current times allows them to they will continue to position themselves on their own terms. The good side is that they do care but the little guy, regardless of what some may believe, 36 years of history as proven this to be so.

 

Yeah, I just lament that fact that if SKW had a management team that wasn't so scared of unions, that they could make this the SWA of the regionals.

 

ASA is generally more senior to us by DOH, so a no brainer there. I suspect the same would be true of ASA compared to XJT.

ASA has lost more than four airplanes to us. Their very own ASA ALPA agreed to a limited loss of aircraft EVERY SINGLE YEAR in the record breaking contract (after 5 years of negotiating).

Don't recall anything about reciprocity in that agreement.

Again, they agreed to that.

 

Who said anything about DOH?

Their agreement also says that on the 5th aircraft that gets transferred to SkyWest, they must take 5 crews with them and integrate them into the SkyWest seniority list. And it is a reciprocal agreement. You can thank ASA and the years of negotiation from your management for that one.

 

Noboby. But, every group will want what benefits them most. We have pilots with over 30 years service still flying. Flew with one the other day with a three digit number... starting flying the Cessna 207.

Those folks would be fine in a single list. But, a huge portion of our pilot group has been on property for 2 years (me, too).

This has been belabored here a few times. Besides the fact that the SkW pilot group gives no indication to want to merge with anybody, the bigger overriding concern will continue to be getting a union jammed down our throats that neither we, nor management, wants.



And why only 4 are moved at a time (I don't think we've transferred any since Brad Holt was moved to ASA).

Our management got ASA after several years of negotiating with Delta. Guess you can thank them, too.

 

Hey JJ, are you going to reply to my PM?

 

Did it yesterday, check your PM's an let me know if it's there.

 

The reason the loss had to be negotiated is because as soon as SKW bought ASA they began taking airplanes (12 months after sale.) The holding company transferred the assets. The language was there to stop this from happening and I am guessing the "take 5 crews with the fifth plane" language was the best that could be hastily negotiated at the time. Some, a very large some at that, of SKW growth came from cannabilizing ASA. You are too new to see that as I see you just recently upgraded. There are plenty of 4XXX number flights in the Delta system being flown by SKW. 4XXX flights are ASA flight numbers. This is the reason XJT will not surrender their integration clause in their successor clause of their contract. SKW management cannot be trusted to treat the "new members of the family" as Atkins is fond of calling the aquired, fairly. I know this point is lost on you and will most likely result in some misplaced anti-union, you got what you deserved reply.

Just be careful. JA will get around to lying to the SKW pilots again after lying to other pilot groups ceases to accomplish his goals.

P.S. Congratulations on the upgrade. Turbine PIC is what is coveted for requirements, but remember, the better job, if you seek one, comes with a union.