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Old 05-29-2008 | 02:18 PM
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Ok guys, enough is enough the rumors, the speculation, we ALL NEED to wait and see what is signed and with whom, plans/deals change daily lets wait for some hard facts before we all continue guessing, because thats all it is, is guesses, when any deal comes out on an official press-release, lets come back to this thread
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Old 05-29-2008 | 02:27 PM
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Did it yesterday, check your PM's an let me know if it's there.
Thanks! I thought it'd tell me when I logged in, but I guess not.

It was there.
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Old 05-29-2008 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SAABaroowski
Ok guys, enough is enough the rumors, the speculation, we ALL NEED to wait and see what is signed and with whom, plans/deals change daily lets wait for some hard facts before we all continue guessing, because thats all it is, is guesses, when any deal comes out on an official press-release, lets come back to this thread
now you're in charge of the forums or something? the whole point of this is to pass around rumors and speculation. facts are easy enough to obtain elsewhere, and much less entertaining. if you don't want to read people's rumors and speculation, close the browser.

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Old 05-29-2008 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
It was XJT's Contract 04 that moved the bar as high as its ever been. They were based on Comair's pre-bankruptcy contract. You cannot compare SKW's 50+ seat rates to anyone else's rates especially since SKW flew those aircraft for a while for the low 50 seat rates you had. And even today, I understand its just an override so you only get paid the 50 seat rates for training, etc.
We you say "as high as it's ever been", what do you mean exactly?

ACA's contract 01 had the 50 seat CA max out at $100/hr. That was the first regional CBA to see that. The ORIGINAL XJT contract 04 didn't match tthat number. It wasn't until LOA 8 was later signed that it changed. That 100/hr rate would have occurred in 2004 in at ACA. LOA 8 doesn't have our guys breaking that figure UNTIL 12/01/09. Also, ACA's year 2 50 seat FO in 2002 is what XJT's is now.
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Old 05-29-2008 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
ASA is generally more senior to us by DOH, so a no brainer there. I suspect the same would be true of ASA compared to XJT.
It would be interesting to match the lists up and see how far that gets us. Even though the SKYW pilots have no voice in this thing I can't believe they wouldn't want to join all 3 airlines together... The leverage would be insane. What's not to like?
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Old 05-29-2008 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ChinsFive
Even though the SKYW pilots have no voice in this thing.....

Just lemmings over here. Mindless robots without direction. Oh, don't forget the koolaid

I don't know how we get out of bed in the morning to make all those on-time departures.
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Old 05-29-2008 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
Just lemmings over here. Mindless robots without direction. Oh, don't forget the koolaid

I don't know how we get out of bed in the morning to make all those on-time departures.
I guess if that helps you avoid the question...
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Old 05-29-2008 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TimSmith
There are plenty of 4XXX number flights in the Delta system being flown by SKW. 4XXX flights are ASA flight numbers.
Yes, I'll be going through ATL for the last time tomorrow, 4xxx series. I was with SkW when we started the ATL base, as it was only last year. And it's only been about 3 years that SkW has owned ASA.


This is the reason XJT will not surrender their integration clause in their successor clause of their contract. SKW management cannot be trusted to treat the "new members of the family" as Atkins is fond of calling the aquired, fairly. I know this point is lost on you and will most likely result in some misplaced anti-union, you got what you deserved reply.

Just be careful. JA will get around to lying to the SKW pilots again after lying to other pilot groups ceases to accomplish his goals.

Screwing us over would accomplish nothing for him (well, maybe short term). JA certainly didn't spend 36 years of his life building this little puddle jumper outfit to start making rash decisions now. My bigger fear is when he retires... who do we get ? Or Chip is lured away with a big paycheck to some other outfit.

Sorry, don't see it happening for now, and neither does the overwhelming majority of our workforce. This, no doubt, is lost on you.

Whether XJT capitulates to JA or not, that's completely up to them.


P.S. Congratulations on the upgrade. Turbine PIC is what is coveted for requirements, but remember, the better job, if you seek one, comes with a union.

Thanks.

I *am* a union member presently. Just not in the airline bidness.

I still don't want ALPA, or their lawsuits, at SkW for the plethora of reasons I've enumerated on many occasions.
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Old 05-29-2008 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ChinsFive
I guess if that helps you avoid the question...

Sure, somebody wants to give me a list with DOH, I'll be happy to compare it to ours. Both ASA and/or XJT.
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Old 05-29-2008 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyWilliams
Screwing us over would accomplish nothing for him (well, maybe short term). JA certainly didn't spend 36 years of his life building this little puddle jumper outfit to start making rash decisions now. My bigger fear is when he retires... who do we get ? Or Chip is lured away with a big paycheck to some other outfit.

It also scares me to think what will happen when Jerry leaves. My last job before an aviation one was with a family company that was sold. Within 2 years it was a shadow of what it had been and morale was in the crapper. I just hope that another excellent leader emerges and keeps SKW where it has been for so long. People bash SKW all the time, but it is really just envy. Yeah the Unions help to set pay scales etc. but it all comes down to management especially at the regional level and we have GREAT management. I know I have a kool-aid mustache, but it tastes great. Leaving my last job was the best move for my personal happiness. Never been better, except maybe the love handles...
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