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Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 35
I'm going to play devils advocate here. Why not? Especially if a pilot lives local and can take full advantage? Don't give me the "it sets a precedent" answer either. Any attempt by the Company to negotiate less days off than what we have now would be thwarted. It's also highly debatable whether it would hinder us from achieving more. Not in these times and those to come.
First, don't put yourself in a situation where you could blow your duty hours without realizing it, and suffering repercussions.
Second, I used to work for a company where the Chief Pilot complained at negotiations "we spend $100,000 a year in call-outs for Pilots on their days off" (It was a small company). The union guys response was "well, I know how we can save you $100,000 a year" - In other words - no call-outs, but you'd better hire more Pilots to cover the short fall. That would cost a lot more.
Third, your employer gives you days off to rest, and you are governed by flight and duty time regulations so that you don't operate an aircraft while fatigued. Don't put safety on the line just to get some extra bucks.
Fourth, when it comes to renegotiating your contract and employment conditions, your Company will look at the staffing numbers - if the Pilots are willing to kiss goodbye to their days off for a few bucks, why should they hire more crew?
Well, there are a couple of reasons not to go over the top when working...
First, don't put yourself in a situation where you could blow your duty hours without realizing it, and suffering repercussions.
Second, I used to work for a company where the Chief Pilot complained at negotiations "we spend $100,000 a year in call-outs for Pilots on their days off" (It was a small company). The union guys response was "well, I know how we can save you $100,000 a year" - In other words - no call-outs, but you'd better hire more Pilots to cover the short fall. That would cost a lot more.
Third, your employer gives you days off to rest, and you are governed by flight and duty time regulations so that you don't operate an aircraft while fatigued. Don't put safety on the line just to get some extra bucks.
Fourth, when it comes to renegotiating your contract and employment conditions, your Company will look at the staffing numbers - if the Pilots are willing to kiss goodbye to their days off for a few bucks, why should they hire more crew?
First, don't put yourself in a situation where you could blow your duty hours without realizing it, and suffering repercussions.
Second, I used to work for a company where the Chief Pilot complained at negotiations "we spend $100,000 a year in call-outs for Pilots on their days off" (It was a small company). The union guys response was "well, I know how we can save you $100,000 a year" - In other words - no call-outs, but you'd better hire more Pilots to cover the short fall. That would cost a lot more.
Third, your employer gives you days off to rest, and you are governed by flight and duty time regulations so that you don't operate an aircraft while fatigued. Don't put safety on the line just to get some extra bucks.
Fourth, when it comes to renegotiating your contract and employment conditions, your Company will look at the staffing numbers - if the Pilots are willing to kiss goodbye to their days off for a few bucks, why should they hire more crew?
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Posts: 239
I went home the first weekend. If you don't have your id then jumpseating isn't an option. I don't know if anyone in our class actually jumpseated at any point so not sure how long it takes to get you into CASS.
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 55
Guess I could always just book flights home and pay for it. How is training going so far for everyone? Is everyone making it through?
You will be able to non rev home anytime you have a break of days off. I'm finishing Dash training and I'm still not in cass. I believe that's once you pass your checkride. I know a guy that goes home every 2 day break we have
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
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You can non rev in the back all you want.
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
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Some good points made. Fitness to fly is the only one that would deter me from picking up something and reducing days off though. Flight and duty isn't really an issue lately with these schedules. I usually go down to the min 11 off so I can't be JM, but I have and will go lower for the right offering. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I would not fault anyone else for doing the same.
We'll see how long it lasts, i personally have been taking advantage of it while its here.
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I dont think the premium pay will be around for much longer. During my CUT training, upper management was pretty open about how they are aggressively trying to get the airline properly staffed so they don't have to pay the pilots so much. I know some of the bypassed FOs were regularly doing over 10k a month with triple premium and captain pay.
We'll see how long it lasts, i personally have been taking advantage of it while its here.
We'll see how long it lasts, i personally have been taking advantage of it while its here.
This last storm really tested the reserves.. and we were out of reserves on everything..
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 55
How are we able to set up the non rev flights? Is it positive space?
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