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Old 06-29-2013 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by porqueno
We were cat II before, we got rid of it because it made our training more expensive
I think it means training 2x year.
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Old 06-30-2013 | 04:38 AM
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I think it means training 2x year.[/QUOTE]

I don't think so, Airways uses AQP meaning they only train once a year, pretty sure they're Cat II
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Old 06-30-2013 | 05:25 AM
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I think it means training 2x year.[/QUOTE]

I don't think so, Airways uses AQP meaning they only train once a year, pretty sure they're Cat II[/QUOTE]

Well thats what they told us in 2011 under that AQP. It wasnt worth the expense as they rarely needed cat II. Anyone else?
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Old 06-30-2013 | 06:12 AM
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I don't know where all these cat II rumors are coming from but who cares? How often would we really use it? I can only think of a few times where it would have come in handy as only a handful of airports we operate in have functioning CAT II approaches.

On the other hand RNAV approach capability would be a huge benefit with our operation, but would require a major avionics overhaul.
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Old 06-30-2013 | 06:31 AM
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if cat II qualified its requirements for alternates are different from what i am told and this would allow company to fly with one alternate instead of two when needed. CAT II the first alternate requirements are lower than the cat I so it is all about saving fuel by virtue of not carrying alternate fuel under cat II when a flight under cat I qualified pilots and aircraft would require an alternate.
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Old 06-30-2013 | 07:05 AM
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I think it means training 2x year.[/QUOTE]

I don't think so, Airways uses AQP meaning they only train once a year, pretty sure they're Cat II[/QUOTE]

There is a lot of guidance on the training requirements for Cat II. Some depends on how often the pilots have actually gotten to do a Cat II approach to full Cat II minimums. Otherwise there is a restriction that lets you go below Cat I but not all the way to Cat II.
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Old 06-30-2013 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by porqueno
It has pilot in command limitations not SOE limitations
Verbage; it is a limited PIC type that is removed after additional training. Hence the SOE among many other things to be completed.
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Old 06-30-2013 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by frmrdashtrash
How many of those 3000 hr, age 33 plus guys are going to stick around? I'm guessing few. I'm in that bracket you mention. If there was such a thing as a one leg commute and a schedule to take advantage of it I'd go back to Piedmont yesterday. (well, truthfully I'd need the left seat back too......:-))
I'm in that group too. One of us has 29,000 hours and is typed in the DC-9 and 717. He is looking to stick around for a long time unless a flow happens to mainline. The rest of us are looking to stick around as well. I'd say about half currently have an opinion to try and flow to mainline at about the 3-5 year mark or just stick around at PDT if it doesn't happen. Of course it will most likely all depend on what PDT is called and operating in 3-5 years as well. Regardless none of us have expressed any real interest in going any place and just use PDT as a place to fill a void until something better comes along.
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Old 06-30-2013 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BSOuthisplace
I don't know where all these cat II rumors are coming from but who cares? How often would we really use it? I can only think of a few times where it would have come in handy as only a handful of airports we operate in have functioning CAT II approaches.

On the other hand RNAV approach capability would be a huge benefit with our operation, but would require a major avionics overhaul.
^^^ totally agree. Pdt pilots have way more important things to be concerned about.
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Old 06-30-2013 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MusDg
Originally Posted by frmrdashtrash
How many of those 3000 hr, age 33 plus guys are going to stick around? I'm guessing few. I'm in that bracket you mention. If there was such a thing as a one leg commute and a schedule to take advantage of it I'd go back to Piedmont yesterday. (well, truthfully I'd need the left seat back too......:-))
I'm in that group too. One of us has 29,000 hours and is typed in the DC-9 and 717. He is looking to stick around for a long time unless a flow happens to mainline. The rest of us are looking to stick around as well. I'd say about half currently have an opinion to try and flow to mainline at about the 3-5 year mark or just stick around at PDT if it doesn't happen. Of course it will most likely all depend on what PDT is called and operating in 3-5 years as well. Regardless none of us have expressed any real interest in going any place and just use PDT as a place to fill a void until something better comes along.
You're really going to stick around there making 25-35K, get abused by scheduling, and work inefficient AM/PM shifts long term?

If you live in base I can see it. It's really not a bad place to work if that's the case. Lord help you trying to commute though.
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