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Old 08-31-2014 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JT8D
So your most senior captains who are nearing retirement are tripping over each other to go to AA and make $40/hr? The vast majority of super senior guys at Eagle had no interest in flowing whatsoever.
Did I say that?? I said this deal ensure the super senior guys to stay here without worrying about the doors closing in less then 10 years. And this deal allowed them to keep there pension. You do realize we have a pension right??

Some of the guys in there early 50's and commute have showed interest in the flow. Not all because they didn't want to lose all there vacation slots that allow them to basically take 2.5 months out of the year off. However That's there deal.

But to sit here and continue to argue..... Really??? It's like Chris Rock said, "It's like playing basketball with a retarded kid and calling him for double dribble." Some things you just gotta let slide.
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Old 08-31-2014 | 05:29 PM
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You guys need to understand, a big part of why Eagle voted down our TA is because historically, these flowthrough arrangements NEVER work as intended and we are always the ones left paying for it.

With radical muslims on the rise, wide open borders, and a so-called president who doesn't care about anything except his own self image, do you really want to make the same mistake the Eagle guys made back before 9-11 and assume ALL risk for a flowthrough agreement that could have FO's topped out at 4 year pay for over half a decade?

Where is the logic in that?
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Old 08-31-2014 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I'm not kidding. I don't deal in hyperbole. You are also dealing in "if." Why don't you ask Envoy what their management promised them when they signed their last concessionary BK contract. They were promised they wouldn't come for more and that they would get 175s. How's that working out for them? What if you vote yes? They can still shut you down. They can still merge you. It's not a saving grace.
They can promise all they want but it needs to be in writing.
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Old 08-31-2014 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I'm not kidding. I don't deal in hyperbole. You are also dealing in "if." Why don't you ask Envoy what their management promised them when they signed their last concessionary BK contract. They were promised they wouldn't come for more and that they would get 175s. How's that working out for them? What if you vote yes? They can still shut you down. They can still merge you. It's not a saving grace.
You don't think we've been lied too also?? Look up our history and you'll see how many time we have been screwed over by management and also by regionals that low balled OUR CONTRACT to get flying. It's a gamble each way.... It's our gamble.
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Old 08-31-2014 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by billyho
But to sit here and continue to argue..... Really??? It's like Chris Rock said, "It's like playing basketball with a retarded kid and calling him for double dribble." Some things you just gotta let slide.
Hey, you're the the one who said you were done here, not me...
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Old 08-31-2014 | 05:34 PM
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Your right... Goodnight
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Old 08-31-2014 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunkin
Why didn't you guys get the 70 CRJ900s and 150 E175s guaranteed to you by voting in your Ch 11 contract? Seems stupid to vote that in and then in return see your future go to other airlines. Probably should have had better negotiators at the table because now you are on the outside looking in wishing you could get a few of those BK scraps. All the envoy tough guy stuff is hilarious, you guys screwed up your Ch 11 CBA horribly and now you are about to get a crappy PBS system with out any growth. You're upset but you have no one to blame but all the Envoy yes voters.
I'm not going to defend the actions of our previous MEC during the bankruptcy. They were a bunch of greedy embezzling idiots. Not only did I vote HELL NO on the bankruptcy TA, I also supported the recall and immediate removal of the worthless individuals who created it. As to why people voted for that deal, I have no idea.
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Old 08-31-2014 | 05:40 PM
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Pathetic how envoy pilots are trying to brainwash PDT guys. Get over it envoy guys, we played a "poker game" and LOST. Simple as that.

....and Im an envoy pilot myself.
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Old 08-31-2014 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Pathetic how envoy pilots are trying to brainwash PDT guys. Get over it envoy guys, we played a "poker game" and LOST. Simple as that.

....and Im an envoy pilot myself.
No... Could it be that just maybe you are a lonely, selfish, bitter old man? Could it just barely be possible that your screen name represents your highest achievement in life? Are you so starved for attention that you troll these forums looking for some form of human interaction?

Why, RJ?

Why?

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Old 08-31-2014 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JT8D
No... You're a lonely, selfish, bitter old scrooge of a man whose screen name represents your highest achievement in life, and who is so starved for attention that you troll these forums looking for some form of human interaction.

Why is that, RJ?
Dude, I think u have a problem.
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