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09-02-2014, 06:58 AM

#5621

twighead

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnGardner

Just curious. How did you arrive at that figure of $1300?

The CA E175 rate at my seniority is a little over a $15 per hour raise over the dash rate. $15x85 hours is 1275.

Edit: pdt lines mostly have a credit 88-89 hours and your average take home is low to mid 90's.

09-02-2014, 07:18 AM

#5622

billyho

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Quote:

Originally Posted by twighead

For the record I'm voting no, but you're math is way off. I'd be making $1300 more per month and if my healthcare doubled it would cost $90 more per month. It's a $1200 per month gain. And I only estimated an 85 hour credit month, which is less than what our lines are built to.

I'm voting "Yes" I'll take the pay raise!!

09-02-2014, 07:23 AM

#5623

twighead

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Originally Posted by billyho

I'm voting "Yes" I'll take the pay raise!!

Haha I hear ya. But hey, when the contract is amendable, you can vote no then come back on here and tell everyone else to hold the line after your flying in your E175. Isn't that what all the other regionals do?

09-02-2014, 07:24 AM

#5624

billyho

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Originally Posted by twighead

Wow.... you must have "ESPN" or something!!!

09-02-2014, 07:34 AM

#5625

billyho

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Oh and don't forget FO's will now get that valuable Glass/Jet time. Remember everyone bailed out of here to make 10k less a year as a FO to get that Jet/Glass time. Blahahahahahahahahah

09-02-2014, 07:35 AM

#5626

Wynncore

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When does voting close?

Also, as I've said before, this is a sub-par deal, all of you know it. Vote what you want...but want what you vote.

09-02-2014, 07:38 AM

#5627

Lvlng4Spd

Happy at PDT

Joined APC: Jan 2014

Position: EMB-145 CA

Posts: 983

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyho

I'm voting "Yes" I'll take the pay raise!!

Indeed. The healthcare cost doesn't scare me, and I'm lucky enough to live in a state with no income tax and low property tax. I'm really just looking for a little stability out of it for the next 5-10 years, if it comes to it. If there is a merger, and I get stuck as a captain at the 12 year cap, I won't hide in my room forever over making $90-95,000+ per year. I can always apply elsewhere if it isn't looking well here for the flow. I'll tell you something, if we don't approve this PDT will die off anyway, because people will be jumping ship like its the Titanic. Either way, we may never be able to staff it. It's a Catch 22, so we might as well go for it.

09-02-2014, 07:57 AM

#5628

JohnGardner

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Quote:

Originally Posted by twighead

Okay so you are basing that on the assumption that 175s are coming to PDT and you will be a line holding captain. Thanks, appreciate the response.

09-02-2014, 08:03 AM

#5629

JT8D

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Posts: 618

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyho

The more you type I think the more PDT people want to vote yes for this TA.

Save all your typing for after the vote. It's passing and probably by as much as 75%. Then you can bash away! As of now you are just wasting your time. Go play with your family or go wrestle your dog till he gets excited. Do something......

So you're just gonna take the Parker Rape and Pillage Plan and like it. Just like a true ho.

And I'll post whenever and wherever I like. Deal with it.

09-02-2014, 08:34 AM

#5630

twighead

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Posts: 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnGardner

Okay so you are basing that on the assumption that 175s are coming to PDT and you will be a line holding captain. Thanks, appreciate the response.

I used that as an example, but the point is any of jet rates would be a pay raise despite the healthcare increase, which wouldn't even take full effect for 4 year after the first delivery. And yes I'm basing it on captain rates. The FO's and people with families will obviously have different results.

We can argue all day about numbers concerning who will be flying which fictional airplane 4 years after the first jet arrives. I was merely responding to a post about how the healthcare increase would be a net loss. The healthcare issue is about the least concerning issue of this LOA.

Last edited by twighead; 09-02-2014 at 08:50 AM.