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Old 12-10-2008 | 01:03 PM
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So, when do we get ACARS up and running for the scheduled vs actual pay? For the record I voted NO and I have the reciept!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALso dont forget to taxi and fly SLOW! Lets get our raise one way or the other!

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Old 12-10-2008 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by freeflyer14
What do you guys have to do now? Physically check in at the airport 2 hours prior to your trip??? Please tell me that's not the case...
On-line or via telephone. Not physical. It is "to make sure crew members will be working their assigned trips." If no check in within 2 hours, reserves will be called to re-crew the trip.

Many think there will be re-assigning done during these calls, however ALPA and the company signed an LOA regarding the company's ability to do that.
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by NoJoy
Airfix go to mesahub for your sticker
I've been trying to get on the hub but I've been unable due to not receiving the registration email. I've emailed the web master about it but progress has been slow.

I think I read a post by Sniper saying that we should not blame ALPA for this decision and I have to agree with his logic because we voted in the representatives and the whole thing was a democratic process. However our NC and ALPA MEC that sent this TA to the pilots for ratification, i believe, sold us short.

What we needed was/is pilot group unification. This TA has just cleft the pilot group in two. ALPA, the NC and our MEC could have unified our pilot group by sending an agreement that they were SURE would been approved by 90%+ of our group. Yet they chose not to do that apparently because they did not have 'negotiating capitol'.

Perhaps the better strategy would have been to send out the first TA which IIRC was turned down by the MEC for ratification because it was too awful. That way the pilot group would be compelled to land slide a 'NO' vote, show unity and strength and then have the NC go back with some more 'negotiating capitol' i.e. the pilot group unification.

Anyway enough of the Monday morning quarter back for me. It is what it is. Now we have to make the best of it, unify the pilot group, work the contract to our best advantage and be very sure about the gains we need in 2010.

The new guys that voted yes will learn over the next couple of years if it was a mistake or not. I just hope they can learn from their mistakes. What was it that bush said:

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:26 PM
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The new guys that voted yes will learn over the next couple of years if it was a mistake or not. I just hope they can learn from their mistakes. What was it that bush said:

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
What's probably the most ironic is that those junior guys(in ORD, IAD and what ever crappy junior base Mesa has as well as the junior CAs) that I am assuming are the only ones who voted yes are going to be the first guys furloughed or downgraded soon when Mesa refocuses on ways to make money. Mesa is now officially the lowest regional out there, it's officially confirmed with this TA. You guys should prodcue 1500 I voted NO Mesa 400 stickers because all 1500 pilots will ask for it, that's the kind of place mesa is.
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BURflyer
What's probably the most ironic is that those junior guys(in ORD, IAD and what ever crappy junior base Mesa has as well as the junior CAs) that I am assuming are the only ones who voted yes are going to be the first guys furloughed or downgraded soon when Mesa refocuses on ways to make money. Mesa is now officially the lowest regional out there, it's officially confirmed with this TA.
Your position at GoJets doesn't allow you to look down your nose at non-scab carriers.
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by paxhauler85
Your position at GoJets doesn't allow you to look down your nose at non-scab carriers.
LOL, as much as I would love to get into it, I have better things to do. How does it feel that your contract will now be ON PAR with the Gojet contract? Congratulations, MESA! Thank ALPA for the hard work.
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BURflyer
LOL, as much as I would love to get into it, I have better things to do. How does it feel that your contract will now be ON PAR with the Gojet contract?Congratulations, MESA! Thank ALPA for the hard work.
No please educate us on the matter I need a good laugh after reading this thread.
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BURflyer
What's probably the most ironic is that those junior guys(in ORD, IAD and what ever crappy junior base Mesa has as well as the junior CAs) that I am assuming are the only ones who voted yes are going to be the first guys furloughed or downgraded soon when Mesa refocuses on ways to make money. Mesa is now officially the lowest regional out there, it's officially confirmed with this TA. You guys should prodcue 1500 I voted NO Mesa 400 stickers because all 1500 pilots will ask for it, that's the kind of place mesa is.
While the passage of this TA is pathetic, GJ is still lower in my opinion. The 418 yes men, didn't screw anyone outside their own company.
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BURflyer
Mesa is now officially the lowest regional out there, it's officially confirmed with this TA.
Sorry, wishful thinking. Mesa may suck, but it's still no Gojets.
Old 12-10-2008 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Ski Patrol
No please educate us on the matter I need a good laugh after reading this thread.
Step 1. Get some popcorn

Step 2. Search on APC: Gojet, Gay

Step 3. Enjoy
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