It's Official....ASA Furloughs
01-07-2009 | 10:50 AM
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I'm really sorry to hear about the furloughs. I guess all we can do is let things play out in the next couple of years, sooner or later the majors will have enough attrition due to retirements and we'll get things moving again. We have about 300+ out on the street here at XJT and I'd sure like to see those guys back on property. Best of luck.
01-07-2009 | 11:01 AM
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While a noble gesture, avoiding open time won't gt the furloughees back. Especially if you're a captain.
Now if the union sent a memo saying to avoid it, maybe that would be something, but they won't.
And sorry to hear about it for all of you. I hope it doesn't last as long as they think it will.
Now if the union sent a memo saying to avoid it, maybe that would be something, but they won't.
And sorry to hear about it for all of you. I hope it doesn't last as long as they think it will.
I feel like the union has dropped the ball on this one. 80 furloughs is BS. WE SPEND TENS OF MILLIONS HAVING TWO MANAGEMENTS. But still ASA furloughs to save a few million.
01-07-2009 | 11:01 AM
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What's BS about this is I was just on the phone yesterday with ALPA and later asked them about ASA furloughs since I had them on the phone. They told me it has been quiet since the 900 memo. So either ALPA didn't know about this and was also side swiped OR I was lied to by ASA's ALPA rep.
01-07-2009 | 11:02 AM
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This statement is spot on. I feel that with this furlough there will be more open time to pick up and all the senior guys will be elated! Many come right out and say that we need to furlough because they can't get any open time. They over extend themselves financially and need 1200 hours of credit to survive. What we need is some better pilot unity across ALL of the DCI carriers.
I feel like the union has dropped the ball on this one. 80 furloughs is BS. WE SPEND TENS OF MILLIONS HAVING TWO MANAGEMENTS. But still ASA furloughs to save a few million.
I feel like the union has dropped the ball on this one. 80 furloughs is BS. WE SPEND TENS OF MILLIONS HAVING TWO MANAGEMENTS. But still ASA furloughs to save a few million.
01-07-2009 | 12:00 PM
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What's BS about this is I was just on the phone yesterday with ALPA and later asked them about ASA furloughs since I had them on the phone. They told me it has been quiet since the 900 memo. So either ALPA didn't know about this and was also side swiped OR I was lied to by ASA's ALPA rep.
01-07-2009 | 12:07 PM
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I hope that ASA can find a home for those 20 a/c slated for removal in 2010 plus that they can find away to increase their currently flying and recall all who are furloughed.
Good luck all.
01-07-2009 | 12:55 PM
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This OT and JM issue can get really ugly when there are guys on the street. Over at Spirit, the union made stickers with all the OT and LM wh0r&$ names on it for people to put on their flight bags. 
01-07-2009 | 02:43 PM
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While a noble gesture, avoiding open time won't gt the furloughees back. Especially if you're a captain.
Now if the union sent a memo saying to avoid it, maybe that would be something, but they won't.
And sorry to hear about it for all of you. I hope it doesn't last as long as they think it will.
Now if the union sent a memo saying to avoid it, maybe that would be something, but they won't.
And sorry to hear about it for all of you. I hope it doesn't last as long as they think it will.
Why won't it help? By avoiding open time you force the company to either cancel flights or retain pilots. If you are a Captain or FO is immaterial. Any open time not picked up as a Captain could bring back a Captain who was displaced to FO and then his vacancy is filled by a furloughee.
I hated seeing guys pad their pockets with greenslips when I was furloughed. The furloughed guys are taking a 100% cut so for anyone to pick up open time for a few extra hours is pathetic.
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