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Old 06-15-2018 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jcountry
Oh, I judge.

The way you treat people who serve you says a LOT about your character.

I remember hearing some High level manager say he always takes potential hires to a business lunch before offering a job.

The purpose of the lunch was to watch how that person treats the server. If they can’t be polite and say “please” and “thank you” (and at least offer to leave a *******ed tip) in a situation like that, that person will not play will with future co workers-and he wouldn’t hire them. That lunch was a deal breaker.

Exactly the same applies to van tips. I have never flown with a non-tipper I liked.

It’s not about money, it’s about character.

If you can’t come off a few bucks a day for some guy who slings bags all day long, you simply have a lack of character. Another way to say it would be that you are a self centered POS.
Totally different situation. A server is making below the standard minimum wage and is doing a hell of a lot more than just driving a van. Van drivers are not paid based on the fact they will earn tips, at least not in the same way that a server is. It is akin to tipping an Uber driver, they accept the job based on the fair that is set, if you choose to tip for above and beyond service, thats great, but if not, no harm done.

If I choose to load and unload my own bags, then why I should tip the driver for just doing what they are paid for? In the past, since so many of you like mentioning your saintly behavior back in the day, drivers made far less then they do now. If you look up shuttle driver on sites like glassdoor you will find they make more then most workers doing the same skill level job.

This is a dumb conversation that is filled with hyperbolic generalizations about peoples character. I have not one time had an issue with a crew member, never had anyone drop or trade trips away, nor have I ever had anyone say or do something to make me feel like I was not liked. I have been invited and have invited to dinner, hikes, events on the road and always had a wonderful time.

I tip when I have cash on me, if I don't, I am damn sure to load and unload my own bags. Pretty straight forward really. If you are going to make a lifelong judgment of my character based on that encounter, so be it, thats your burden to carry not mine.
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Old 06-15-2018 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jcountry
Oh, I judge.

The way you treat people who serve you says a LOT about your character.

I remember hearing some High level manager say he always takes potential hires to a business lunch before offering a job.

The purpose of the lunch was to watch how that person treats the server. If they can’t be polite and say “please” and “thank you” (and at least offer to leave a *******ed tip) in a situation like that, that person will not play will with future co workers-and he wouldn’t hire them. That lunch was a deal breaker.

Exactly the same applies to van tips. I have never flown with a non-tipper I liked.

It’s not about money, it’s about character.

If you can’t come off a few bucks a day for some guy who slings bags all day long, you simply have a lack of character. Another way to say it would be that you are a self centered POS.
Oh the hilarity of this post is quite something. Guess I'll never hack it in corporate America! Guess what chicken ****er I was in a corporate setting and no one ever tipped more than the company would reimburse. 12 percent! That is a cheap POS for sure and **** them. I stand by my statement that per diem is not for van driver tipping. I'll do what I want judge away ass hat!
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Old 06-15-2018 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AZFlyn1
I'm just sitting here in my hotel room on a layover, reading through APC and just had a thought and decided to post it. I've debated with my crews over the tip/no tip of shuttle drivers to/from the hotel. What's your opinion on this? I think it's tough because I make less than these shuttle drivers do I'm sure, yet I feel cheap if I don't give them a buck each and every time they pick me up and drop me off. Yet no one tips me for getting them to their destination. I know I'm a professional though, so I shouldn't get tipped, I'm just curious to see what my fellow pilots think about this issue.






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Old 06-15-2018 | 01:48 PM
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Wow, anyone who doesn't tip, please leave your name here so I can make sure you're not hired at my airline. Cheap ********... Cannot believe that anyone would argue $6 over the course of 4 days is going to break them... Just unreal.
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Old 06-15-2018 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
Wow, anyone who doesn't tip, please leave your name here so I can make sure you're not hired at my airline. Cheap ********... Cannot believe that anyone would argue $6 over the course of 4 days is going to break them... Just unreal.
honestly, if hostitile, toxic, judgement filled attitudes like yours are rampant at your carrier I wouldn’t want to work there, anyway.

Feel free to pass my name up the chain there if you want.

Korben Dallas. From NY
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Old 06-15-2018 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
Wow, anyone who doesn't tip, please leave your name here so I can make sure you're not hired at my airline. Cheap ********... Cannot believe that anyone would argue $6 over the course of 4 days is going to break them... Just unreal.
You sir or madam are out of touch with your judgement skills. You can also shove your airline where the sun doesn't shine I don't care.
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Old 06-16-2018 | 09:36 PM
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Are you getting tips for carrying all of those passengers and their luggage to their destination?

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Old 06-16-2018 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
Are you getting tips for carrying all of those passengers and their luggage to their destination?

We’ll know, but you’re not obligated to tip pilots for... reasons?
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Old 06-17-2018 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes
Are you getting tips for carrying all of those passengers and their luggage to their destination?

I have gotten Starbucks gift cards and gotten a $5 from the FA after a first class passenger tipped the crew and told her to split it. And more.
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Old 06-17-2018 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I have gotten Starbucks gift cards and gotten a $5 from the FA after a first class passenger tipped the crew and told her to split it. And more.
Well there’s your van tipping money!
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