Originally Posted by WAVIT Inbound

Your airplanes, your pilots, your priority. If you outsourced the work then that's your problem mainline. (in more ways than just Non-reving might I add) Only in aviation. The sense of entitlement is insane.

Originally Posted by Selcall

Here is how this works and should always work.
1. If it is Delta Metal then me and my entire family including my parents should have priority over any Pilot, flight attendant, mechanic, ramper or God knows what else that works for any other company. If your ID badge does not say Delta (this also includes the employees of NWA until SOC is complete and they all have Delta Badges) then you go behind me on my metal. Plain and simple. That is the way it should be.

2. As for Buddy passes of course you everyone including the family dog from any airline goes before them in my book.

3. Complain about the system all you want and please make sure to tell all of us at Mainline how your productivity will diminish and flights will start to cancel that your contract has your company obligated to perform because you cannot get to work. Here is a horrible truth and it's nothing personal but I want that to happen. That way more 50 seats RJ's are shipped to the desert or Africa, your contracts are nullified for lack of performance and then I don't have to hear any of you complain about travel benefits.... because you are at Home Depot selling me paint and stuff as I remodel my house. Look at it on the bright side, you will probably be making more money there anyway.

4. Here is what I would change: If it's your company airplane (ie Pinnacle, ASA, Comair or whomever) that is flying from BHM to ATL then I think it should be DOH between the two of us for Non rev priority. If the flight is operated by another DCI carrier contracted by Delta Air Lines to operate a flight between respective cities and you work for another DCI carrier then I could care less how long you have been working at that other DCI carrier: your priority should always be after any Delta Air Lines (remember the id thing) employee and their family. Here is another tidbit they probably forgot to tell you but if my parents are traveling with me on a flight they get the same priority as I do no matter what.

You want to make things better then for you in your next contract get commuter clauses, call in honest or whatever you want to call them included. If the Capital for such items is overbearing then forget about it and always remember this.

Your Non Revenue Privileges are just that: Privileges and not Rights.

Neither you nor I have the right to dictate terms to management on what priority a contract employee should have when traveling and in the luxury of not living in the town or city in which we find ourselves gainfully employed. That is always the case. Now stop crying about this and go back to telling all of us "Mainline Guys" how we are the cause for all your other hardships in life. I find that more amusing.

Originally Posted by p1ayn

Not an employee of DAL, Dal has priority, easy enough...I can live with the flippin s3c's . But I will be dam if a Dal parent or employee for that matter comes on my dci airplane on an s2 or s3, an bumps an actual employee of our airline who bust their A$$ to make your label look better. Won't change anything in the new benefits, however, as is the new pass bennies are unfair, so will my new practices. Goes both ways! Plain and simple. Problem with that.....frankly dont care....what else do i have to lose.
Noone can dictate terms to management, however we ALL have the RIGHT to voice our displeasures with decisions.

Originally Posted by RichieAshburn

Settled! DAL gets priority.

Originally Posted by bored

For all the red headed stepchildren of the former NWA... we're used to the boarding priority of being below mainline. In general, it hasn't been THAT bad. A missed F or Biz upgrade here or there, but generally it hasn't mattered. Where it has mattered was commuting between the hubs and with that you had to get creative or hope some mainline pilot could take the FA jumpseat if it was available. Thank goodness for our p-space commuter clause!

No loss for the f-NWA Airlinkers. But when anyone loses something they've enjoyed, it's a blow to morale. This is just another kick in the head for those at Comair and having taken kick after kick for year after year at Mesaba, I know what it's like and it 'aint fun. Do all you mainliners have to have such attitude about it? Jeez. Stop giving away scope and maybe there indeed will be a job to hope for at mainline! And quit throwing the "well, leave your regional and you can enjoy the good life." BS.

Originally Posted by cyrcadian

I don't understand where this holier than thou attitude comes from, but it is not very becoming of a professional.

I don't even understand why we are even arguing about this. People say RJs are the downfall of the industry, I say its pilots themselves.

Originally Posted by RichieAshburn

See my last post. You guys are demanding changes to a PRIVILEGE. Now, that's not professional.

Originally Posted by RichieAshburn

See my last post. You guys are demanding changes to a PRIVILEGE. Now, that's not professional.