I think the MEC should of passed a resolution like the ones they pass for soemthing as small as "pass benefits" that said the encouraged the hiring of DAL furloughs without seniority resignation. At least that would have been something. Then again I wasn't around when this happened and don;t know what went down and given the people in power at the time(same people in power for the first 2yrs I was here) I wouldn't be surpised if more than 3/4 of the pilot group didn't either

Given the present state of our company, I can't see how hiring DAL furloughs would have hurt us, who knows maybe it owuld have helped us as the DAL pilots would be more willing to listen to our plight.

Dal guys I have had on the jumpseat of flights that I have worked have been great and a good change of pace to the some of the *****ing that goes down. Nothing like listening to the guy next to you complain about the new pass privelages for 3 straight days and how Delta is screwing him and how he is technically a Delta pilot.

 

If its a Delta flight number then if it your metal, then I think it should go DOH between the two of us. If I am more senior to you then I shold have priority. Remember the flying your company is doing is contracted for MY Company....plain and simple. Rage on.....

 

I do not have an issue if you get DOH but every for DCI pilot should get their then, and all of the military guys should get credit for their YOS. (In effect a pipe dream)
All they are doing is making it harder and harder to stay at a regional. They are trying to push you up or out. It is one more way to get the DCI costs down.

 

The rest of Europe couldn't lend aid to England in the early 40's when the Battle of Britain was raging, because they were getting the crap kicked out of them too.

Comair has taken MORE than its fair share of beatings at the hands of Delta's bankruptcy, and it's gotten WORSE since.

Can you say the same about mainline Delta? Last I saw, Comair's upgrade times are meeting and in some cases EXCEEDING Delta's...How could Comair possibly help out Delta, when they're sinking themselves?


Reference

Delta
Most junior captain hired: Jul 2000 (MD88/New York)

Comair
Most Junior CVG 70/90 capt: Nov 1999
Most Junior CVG 50 capt: July 1999
Most Junior JFK 50 capt: Dec 2000

And in all honesty, it wouldn't surprise me if Comair's upgrade times are even LONGER now.

This angst against Comair for something the "MEC may or may not have done" in 2003 is ridiculous. It was a crap situation for everyone, and the MEC Chair was a piece of garbage, but he's gone now. Why do the hard feeling still remain?

United we stand, divided we fall, last i checked neither RJs nor 777s have parachutes......

This industry is in a flat spin, and this petty bickering over "travel privileges" is absurd. How would ya'll feel if NWA bought you, and let their retirees and parents board before you? Would you say, well..it's their metal..guess i'll call commuter and not get paid for a day or two of my trip, my mortgage payment can wait, and my kids don't need to eat.

I'm not disagreeing with mainline having priority on mainline airplanes, DOH between regionals and mainline guys on DL metal is silly. All we're saying is S3 on our own planes (equal with mainline guys..fine), and at least S3b on mainline, there's no reason Ma and Pa Delta should bump Joe Schmoe FO and Jane Doe FA from CVG - JFK because momma and daddy D are going to Hawaii to celebrate a geriatric luau. Must we remind ya'll that your parents never worked for Delta...so why should THEY have priority over a COMMUTING PILOT.

Teams aside, we all should be fighting the same battle..and it shouldn't be this.

 

Because people won't let it die. How many times in ops have you heard some one ranting about Delta. Their are people out there that are ****ed at Delta pilots for some reason about the pass privelages, even though they have nothing to do with it what so ever. Some people have entitlement issues.

It will continue until people grow up and start acting like adults and quit pointing the finger at the other side an blaming all of their problems on them.

It is the 2-3% (either side) that keep the hard feelings fresh.

 

Well sort of... Your company (including your union) gave that flying away by choice..... yes the brand is there but nothing else. It's like Coke whining about poor product being made by a franchise bottler. They chose to sell off part of their process so it's not really entirely theirs anymore. Same with airlines.

 

A little history correction is due here. If this is the case, then why did a number of Delta Furloughees end up at ASA (and the same for NWA furloughees end up at Pinnacle... plus many other regionals) without having to resign their seniority?


The entitlement attitudes of Comair and other DCI carriers forever astounds me. You want mainline privaleges? Get a job at mainline. You are outsourced labor at carriers built as stepping stones, despite what you may assert. Selcall echoes my sentiments exactly in regards to my feelings on what the bennies should be.

 

It is going to make me happy when that no furlough clause goes away and your selling me paint at Home Depot. How dare you rip on people that were laid off in this industry.

 

And you would call this what?

 

Ha Ha. Defending the helpless Comair guys. It's time to just close Comair down for good. The dud was right, every regional job is a direct result of Christmas from mainline. The non-rev seats should be no different. Most Delta guys think that Comair people should also come behind Delta on Comair metal as well.