Proposed ATP/1500 Minimums for 121 Carriers
08-01-2009 | 11:58 AM
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Disagree. Those numbers sound fine for somebody wanting to fly boxes and checks... to fly at a part 121 AIRLINE, the pilots should both hold AIRLINE Transport Pilot Licenses...
08-01-2009 | 11:59 AM
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I sure hope we get the 1500 hour requirement for 121. Of this 1500 they need to say you must have 1,000 PIC. Otherwise we will just get guys sitting SIC at 135 ops instead of 121 ops.
Imagine if they also said you must have one of the following:
*300 multi
*300 Turbine PIC (Such as Caravan)
*Type rating with 300 hours PIC/SIC on Type
Imagine if they also said you must have one of the following:
*300 multi
*300 Turbine PIC (Such as Caravan)
*Type rating with 300 hours PIC/SIC on Type
08-01-2009 | 12:00 PM
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I sure hope we get the 1500 hour requirement for 121. Of this 1500 they need to say you must have 1,000 PIC. Otherwise we will just get guys sitting SIC at 135 ops instead of 121 ops.
Imagine if they also said you must have one of the following:
*300 multi
*300 Turbine PIC (Such as Caravan)
*Type rating with 300 hours PIC/SIC on Type
Imagine if they also said you must have one of the following:
*300 multi
*300 Turbine PIC (Such as Caravan)
*Type rating with 300 hours PIC/SIC on Type
It isn't a 1,500 hour requirement.... it is a requirement to hold an ATP license. They should be careful how they word this.... I would prefer the language say both the hours required and the license required... since it is just a stroke of the pen away by and ATA backed FAA administrator to lower ATP min's to essentially what we were hiring the past few years.
08-01-2009 | 12:23 PM
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Age 70 I can see it now the same people that lead the push for age 65 will be saying the new younger crews are not qualified and you need the experience in the flight deck.
08-01-2009 | 02:42 PM
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[quote=Whacker77;654526]It's a fine idea and the more experience the better, but I don't think there will be enough pilots for airlines to hire. I've read where some say the regional industry might have to shrink because of this. That sounds well and good, but the vast majority of these airlines are publicly owned and they are not going to shun extra revenue. If the demand is there, they're going to add the supply. From a business perspective, it would be stupid for them to remain artificially small. The airline industry is a business, albeit a poorly run business.[/quote]
It is exactly for that reason that we are seeing change being legislated. The airlines have proven time and time again that they can not be trusted to do the right thing.
It is exactly for that reason that we are seeing change being legislated. The airlines have proven time and time again that they can not be trusted to do the right thing.
08-01-2009 | 02:43 PM
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08-01-2009 | 03:06 PM
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It's a fine idea and the more experience the better, but I don't think there will be enough pilots for airlines to hire. I've read where some say the regional industry might have to shrink because of this. That sounds well and good, but the vast majority of these airlines are publicly owned and they are not going to shun extra revenue. If the demand is there, they're going to add the supply. From a business perspective, it would be stupid for them to remain artificially small. The airline industry is a business, albeit a poorly run business.
08-01-2009 | 03:09 PM
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What are we all worried about anyway? There's going to be atleast 2 years worth of "well qualified" furloughees with ATP or better that will be hired before any of the 250 hr wet commercial ticket pilots (Giving them ample time to build experience). Higher requirements should mean higher pay and that is something we should all support. I had near ATP mins before my first 121 job and cannot believe some of the stories I hear from captains about my lower time counterparts. A captain isn't there to babysit and hopefully these changes reverse the current trend of quantity over quality as far as hiring practices are concerned.
