If your goal is unity, then why don't you push for all branded flying to be done by pilots on DAL's seniority list? That's what I'd like to see. Be it a Saab, CRJ, ERJ, 320, 777, 747 or anything in between.

Also, I'd like to see DAL's hiring mins and requirements(no SLI or staple). This would solve your prior post about bottom feeder contract carriers, because there would not be any!

What do you say? Would you fight for this kind of unity knowing you'd lose your job and have to re-interview? That way, DAL could "right size" the regional flying easier. Too bad we'd have to wait for some iron clad contracts to expire before this could become reality.

Would this make us unified enough?

BTW, since RA is not your CEO , it doesn't matter if you give him credit or not. Talk to any DAL pilot(especially junior) and we will give him(and DALPA) credit for not furloughing pilots(yet). So far, he is guiding this airline through rough times. I'll cautiously support him until he proves it's not justified(BTW, I'm FNWA and am familiar w/RA).

 

I like this idea. I'm already furloughed and doubt OH will be around long enough to recall, but I certainly would take my chances re-interviewing to fly the same plane I was flying when furloughed!

 

RA is our CEO of Delta and all it's subsidiaries. We only have Presidents to lead the three wholly owned carriers, who are personally chosen by RA himself. I think RA's doing a great job at keeping you guys in the cockpit and off the street. RA is bound by the contracts signed by the previous Delta CEO's so he has to make the cuts from where he can. There are some that think it's personal or a "vendetta"; especially here at Comair. The whole thing with the shrinking of the wholly owned carriers is just business.

 

[quote=RichieAshburn;658177]If your goal is unity, then why don't you push for all branded flying to be done by pilots on DAL's seniority list? That's what I'd like to see. Be it a Saab, CRJ, ERJ, 320, 777, 747 or anything in between. Also, I'd like to see DAL's hiring mins and requirements(no SLI or staple). This would solve your prior post about bottom feeder contract carriers, because there would not be any!

This is a good comment. This is the way it SHOULD have been from the beginning. This is the way it is done at Lufthansa and at Air Canada. The current system under the DAL management only breeds disunity amongst pilots. Divide and conquer philosophy has been around for a very long time and the Brits have used it very successfully during their heyday while pillaging India, China and other parts of the world.

One thing I would like to point out is that this current reductions of wholly owned DCI carriers such as Mesaba and Comair is NOT going to add more jobs at DAL. If you take a poll right now among experienced senior NWA and DAL pilots, majority of them will tell you that there is a very strong indication that DAL wants to operate with less than 12,500 pilots. Closer to around 10,000 pilots is what I am hearing. Take a look at current routes such as DTW to AUS or DTW/MEM to SLC to AUS to BOI etc. These were all DAL mainline routes that are now being flown by 76 RJs and instead of decreasing, they are on the rise.

 

I think this would be just fine. I think it would definitely unify the pilot groups. This would never happen. If it's all about the money then this would never be a reality.
Pinnacle, Skywest and ASA would go out of business if that happened.

 

I think the wholly owned carriers will eventually grow again as the non-wholly owned carriers contracts are up for renewal. The problem is that short term pain will be felt. I don't understand why you would get rid of any aircraft right now as the economy improves. Age 65 is still the biggest career killer for current pilots, it moves the furlough threat to an older age which makes leaving your current carrier more difficult.

 

Soooo, we should look for more mainline jobs to appear then??

 

[QUOTE=Lighteningspeed;658437]Where do you get the 10,000 pilot list from? I have not heard anyone say that. To do that would result in more than the just the -9s and the 742s leaving the property. To date, only the 9-30s are on the chopping block as well as some older 757s. However, there is a push to add up to 50 additional MD90s as well as the 777s and 737s they have on order.