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Old 11-22-2009 | 09:06 AM
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Well I don't care what the company said about not using rsv "enough" I was hired in April 28th of 08 and furloughed in June 1st 09. Taking into account that I had the three months of initial with no flight time and I also bid part time lines once and a zero time line once. I dropped days and stayed home as much as I could because rsv was brutal and still ended up with over 600 hours of flight time total with the company. So if any FO's are under 1000 it can't be by much.
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Old 11-22-2009 | 09:45 AM
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Oh. Was the xsition course worth the time spent? To me, flying a jet is easier than any piston. And to have to pay the tax
Well, I don't know about the actual sim time itself. I guess the ground school and flows were good prep, but I would have finished fine without it, I think. I guess it didn't hurt though, it was educational. It wasn't optional though, so I didn't have a choice, and I would have jumped through hoops to get hired.
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Old 11-22-2009 | 10:05 AM
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Wonder if the people in the pool that were offered the orientation course but never took it have to redo the interview? It would make sense now the number of available applicants with higher times on the street exist. For that matter I wonder if the pool will be dissolved and a whole new batch of applicants interviewed. All this is mute of course if they aren't even going to hire off the street.
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Old 11-22-2009 | 01:45 PM
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I was sent to orientation with 530 TT and I was the 2nd lowest most had between 1000-2000 TT

we were sent a 1099 form and they did inform of this to us.

I talked to my dad's tax guy and got out of paying anything from the course.

I'm guessing there's around 15-20 in the pool...i have no idea the real number, and I'm not holding my breath for any of it though, just have no idea whats going to happen.
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Old 11-22-2009 | 03:24 PM
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530TT? Do yourself a favor and get your CFI. Its for your own benefit.
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Old 11-22-2009 | 04:41 PM
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530TT? Do yourself a favor and get your CFI. Its for your own benefit.
Hey buddy, that was two years ago when their were people in my crj course with 210 hrs from riddle. Do yourself a favor, and mind your own business. I was hired with 500 tt and went to the course with 550 tt. Yea it was low time but I still was hired and passed their stinkin course. Not that it did me any good cuz my class was cancelled.

You're not the HR person and we're not asking for you're career guidance. who's to say the guy doesn't already have his CFI. Getting your CFI doesn't solve anything or find you a job in this market either. There are many people that work for Eagle who were hired with less time and are still working there. I also know many people at eagle with less PIC time that I have and I'm just shy of getting my ATP.
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Old 11-22-2009 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
530TT? Do yourself a favor and get your CFI. Its for your own benefit.

not sure if that was a hit to me or a hit to the dozens of pilots that were hired with less time then that....

thanks WmuGrad for backing me up.

lets not beat a dead horse and bring this kind of topic up again.

FWIW...my CFIA checkride is next monday... so thanks for the advice RJ???
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Old 11-23-2009 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by WmuGrad07
Hey buddy, that was two years ago when their were people in my crj course with 210 hrs from riddle. Do yourself a favor, and mind your own business. I was hired with 500 tt and went to the course with 550 tt. Yea it was low time but I still was hired and passed their stinkin course. Not that it did me any good cuz my class was cancelled.
My family travels on my airline. So that makes it my business.Even a monkey can be trained, spoon feed to "pass" any "stinkin" course.Do a research and find out how many of these "wonders" pass their probie check ride 10month later.AT 500TT or 500TT you dont have the level of experience to operate in a 121 environment. I really hope congress will pass the 1500TT ATP mins.
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Old 11-23-2009 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
My family travels on my airline. So that makes it my business.Even a monkey can be trained, spoon feed to "pass" any "stinkin" course.Do a research and find out how many of these "wonders" pass their probie check ride 10month later.AT 500TT or 500TT you dont have the level of experience to operate in a 121 environment. I really hope congress will pass the 1500TT ATP mins.
Yeah, it will go back to 10yrs ago when everyone had 1500TT minimum, with some sort of CFI, or 135 job before coming on board.
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Old 11-23-2009 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
My family travels on my airline. So that makes it my business.Even a monkey can be trained, spoon feed to "pass" any "stinkin" course.Do a research and find out how many of these "wonders" pass their probie check ride 10month later.AT 500TT or 500TT you dont have the level of experience to operate in a 121 environment. I really hope congress will pass the 1500TT ATP mins.
How about the pilots from AA that didnt make it through training? Or the guys in my interview class with 2000TT+ and didnt pass the interview?

Attitude and train-ability determine your success in this job. Without the right attitude to accept criticism and eager to learn from instructors, CAs, peers, Chief pilot, etc you wont make it. Without the ability to adapt learn those new ways of operating the aircraft you won't make it either. How many times have we changed checklist items in the past year? How about the way we operate the packs, bleeds, APU, GPU, etc?

This subject has been seriously beaten to death, but hours in the log book are nice only if those hours were spent constructively. For a major 121 airline operation I would take a 500hr pilot with a good attitude and trainable as opposed to a grizzled 5000hr freight dog who spent the past 5 yrs flying single pilot in a caravan.
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