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11-23-2009 | 08:45 AM

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I would take in a heartbeat that grizzled 5000hr freight dog over the 500hr wizard when the shiit hits the fan.

11-23-2009 | 09:11 AM

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Da Magic

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i wonder how long til we see: well i have 1000 TT 50 ME do i have a chance???

wow, i was just jokin' but it did turn into one of these threads. geez.

11-23-2009 | 09:28 AM

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wow, i was just jokin' but it did turn into one of these threads. geez.

Yea, my apologies. bAAck on track with your regularly scheduled programming...

So does everyone have their login info(from the ALPA email) for the ALPA teleconference tomorrow(11/24) at 11am CST? It should be a good one and I am hoping they shed some light on the vacancy bid as well.

11-23-2009 | 09:46 AM

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bAAck on track with your regularly scheduled programming...

oh what? how did taylor swift get on my playlist!

11-23-2009 | 09:56 AM

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oh what? how did taylor swift get on my playlist!

Too busy stuffin your backpack with hair gel.

11-23-2009 | 11:03 AM

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Too busy stuffin your backpack with hair gel.

Im not one of those... maybe you're upset because your hair is thinning!

11-23-2009 | 11:46 AM

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I just grabbed my popcorn....looks like the show has just began! Keep throwin em punches fellas.

11-23-2009 | 11:53 AM

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I just grabbed my popcorn....looks like the show has just began! Keep throwin em punches fellas.

Yea, hope you choke on your Orville Redenbacher popcorn you old a** Captain! Get out of my seat!

11-23-2009 | 12:02 PM

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How about the pilots from AA that didnt make it through training? Or the guys in my interview class with 2000TT+ and didnt pass the interview?

Attitude and train-ability determine your success in this job. Without the right attitude to accept criticism and eager to learn from instructors, CAs, peers, Chief pilot, etc you wont make it. Without the ability to adapt learn those new ways of operating the aircraft you won't make it either. How many times have we changed checklist items in the past year? How about the way we operate the packs, bleeds, APU, GPU, etc?

This subject has been seriously beaten to death, but hours in the log book are nice only if those hours were spent constructively. For a major 121 airline operation I would take a 500hr pilot with a good attitude and trainable as opposed to a grizzled 5000hr freight dog who spent the past 5 yrs flying single pilot in a caravan.

Your theory works realy well for FO's and I agree with you on that point. But what is going to happen when/if the descions lie with them? They have never been tested never been put in a situation where the safety of flight depends on their judgment. the only time they have is when they were on their Solo X-country flights during training. Oh and nevermind the fact that some of these people wont even qualify for an upgrade becuase they lack the PIC requirement for an ATP. This is true no matter how much SIC time they accumulate in their career unless they go pay for some cesna cross country time.

11-23-2009 | 12:07 PM

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I would take a 500hr pilot with a good attitude and trainable as opposed to a grizzled 5000hr freight dog who spent the past 5 yrs flying single pilot in a caravan.

Time and experience is worth a whole lot more than enthusiasim no matter how you cut it.