dashtrash300

I would be happy to but I think it might have more validity coming from a Colgan pilot especially if it is from his state. I am neither

AZFlyn1

I know there are, I have some good friends at Colgan. I just will not go to another company like this unless and until they treat us and pay us like a real company.. until then, I'll wait it out, just tired of this crap... but I do wish those of you at all bad companies the best of luck and hopefully there will be some positive change on the horizon. Seriously though, how freakin' stupid can their mgmt be to put something out like this at a time like this?

eaglefly

Oh, that's a relief.

I guess enacting retaliatory and dangerous policies that jeopardize the safety of your employees and customers for the sake of profit isn't a big deal when it's only temporary.


What's 6 weeks of jeopardized safety between friends ?

One things for certain now (and someone might want to mention this to Colgan management). IF an incident or accident happens there during this period and people are hurt or killed, this policy will come back not only to bite them, but kill this airline.

They'll be sued out-of-business (and rightly so). My guess is no one there consulted their attorneys on the incredable liability they've just placed on themselves. Even if that incident/accident isn't fatigue related, everyone will be outing the carrier on this. Anyone who reads this directive can clearly see the fear it wil create, whether intended or not. This is a policy of intimidation and a declaration that Colgan pilots will no longer be permitted to determine their own physiology and fitness for flight as the FAR's require and this will now be determined by third parties with questionable motives.

My advice to ALL Colgan pilots is to make a copy of this directive and place it in safe care with loved ones, so that it surfaces like a turd in a punchbowl at the beginning of a party. Everyone has to make their own choices, but If it were happening to me, I would also make a declaratory statement into the CVR before every flight like , "I XXXXXXXX am operating this aircraft in an environment of intimidation and fear and believe I'm forced to endure this environment without complaint so as to maintain my employment. I am unsure how this will affect my ability to operate this aircraft, but I have no other present choice, but to continue ". I wonder if the attorneys for 3407 plaintiffs would be interested in this absurd declaration, if for no other reason then to demonstrate the reckless callousness of this management, when it comes time to argue before a jury for punitive and compensatory damages.

Absolute accountability by Colgan management this time and an irrefutable smoking gun to insure that.

usmc-sgt

There is ten percent of the pilot group who thinks that Colgans stuff doesnt stink and are so grateful for all they have done for us in graciously not furloughing. I come across them every now and again who tell me how lucky I am to be here and how it is a great place to work.

I roll my eyes and know that I have seen the "real world" and count the days till something else comes along.

The groups who I see it from the most:

1. The guys whos parents funded all of their flight training at a pilot mill

2. The guys who paid for their type ratings here (some of them, not all)

3. The guys who lived at an outstation and did out and backs only for 10 years.

4. The single guys who upgraded on their 23rd birthdays and were hired at 19 with 400 TT and 200 ME and only a CMEL with no CFI.

5. The guys who had lucrative careers until they were 40 or so and cashed in to come here and live the dream.

6. The guys who were fired or washed out of other airlines and were hired here and are now check airmen.

7. Most of the leather jacket club. AKA...the jacket of shame.

There are more I just dont feel like typing them all. Most of us (maybe 75%) treat this place as exactly what it is...a means to an end. The only difference is that the end used to come in 3-5 years, now it is 5-7 or more.

Seggy

We are well aware of the new Fatigue Policy Colgan has implemented. On Monday we will have a much more in depth FastRead that will explain our views on this new policy. Any questions or concerns that arise until then please call the MEC Hotline at 1-877-MEC-CJC1.

Thank You,

Mark Segaloff

CJC MEC Chairman.

LostInPA

And this ridiculousness coming from a company with a statement at the front of the manuals about how important safety is to them. Might as well just rip all that out.

Surreal.

flapsfail

This is absolutely ridiculous, but if your fatigued your fatigued. If they want to push the issue it would never hold up in court.

Remember thr far/aim and the IM SAFE checklist. That comes straight from
the Feds. Seems cut and dry to me....

flyguyniner11

give a pilot a bag of money and he'll complain how heavy it is

BeaglePilot

That's all fine and dandy, but there isen't a damned thing you can do if they fire a pilot.

BlueMoon

You are right, we don't care. It is 6 weeks too long.